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From: an italian guy
To: the one
Subject: the bombs
Date: Sun Sep 30 13:13:26 2001

Message:
sorry for you, but I thing Afghanistan is going to get bombed 
with MISSILES, one.

From: Louis Farakhan
To: America
Subject: Sep 11, 2001
Date: Sun Sep 30 13:21:10 2001

Message:
http://www.finalcall.com/america_attacked/mlf_guidance09-25-
2001.htm

Q: In regard to your website as noted above, Final Call to what 
Mr. Farakhan? 


"While standing in agreement with the leaders of this country in 
their hunt for the perpetrators, Min. Farrakhan implored them to 
take the same courage to examine the effects of U.S. foreign 
policy in producing such heinous crimes against humanity. "

Q: So, is what he is saying is that US Foreign policy is 
responsible for this and not the Terrorists?  Shall we blame the 
victims Mr. Farakhan?

"Allah (God) used this tragedy, hopefully, to bring a great 
nation to Him," he added, saying that only in humility can the 
guidance of God be heeded. Only divine guidance from scriptural 
scientists of all faiths, the Minister stated, can prevent the 
U.S. government from violating international law in their stated 
mission to rip up the nest of terrorists. "

Q: Is he trying to say this is a means of conversion?   I have 
no problems with Muslims in general, but  I have no interest in 
becoming a Muslim.  I'm sorry he said that Judaism was a dirty 
religion though.  I'm sure no other religion get much more 
respect, you White Devils, you!

Q: Only whose divine guidance?  The one on his agenda?  

"I m very excited and it was a very meaningful message from the 
Minister today," said Jacqueline Jackson, wife of Rev. Jesse 
Jackson, who sat privately with Min. Farrakhan and wife Mother 
Khadijah following the press conference. "I hope his words will 
be healing and we will bring this tragedy to a peaceful and 
reconciling solution."

Q: Ms Jackson, did your husband get enough press coverage this 
time around?  It's nice to know that he, you, his girlfriend and 
all of your collective children are taking the moral high ground.

Q:  What if Jesse Jackson gave a Press Conference and no one 
came?  I've lost all respect for a man I would have followed to 
the ends of the earth prior to his granstanding "Taliban" press 
conference.

"He addressed some very important issues that are not being 
addressed, such as the certainty of evidence in seeking 
justice," commented former Congressman Mervyn Dymally, a 
Democrat who represented parts of Los Angeles. "It was a direct 
message calling upon the country to be even handed, not to 
strike because of suspicion and without evidence. But these 
truths are not very popular in the media. The media wants war 
and that s the only cry that they want to cover," he said."

Q: You want evidence?  Write to:
                        George W. Bush
                        1600 Pennsyvania Ave
                        Washington, D.C.
                           USA 

I'm sure you're individual need to know outweighs the need for 
national security.  Will you post his answer for me please?

Which media coverage is clamoring for war?  

Kay Benjamin, a Los Angeles actress, said the tragedy was a very 
painful thing "because it was man s inhumanity to man. I m so 
grateful for the Honorable Minister Farrakhan s speech because 
we got the voice of reason."

Q: Who is Kay Benjamin?  And was this the best part she could 
get?  

From: dc-10 guy
To: russian guy
Subject: inter net
Date: Sun Sep 30 12:49:00 2001

Message:
using the american internet comrad ? there are alot of americans 
that would love to nuke your commie ass. i'll bet your ex- commie 
soildiers would sell their tanks for a pack of marlboro's. it 
sucks to be poor. you should now ... we don't ... peace

From: an Italian guy
To: survey taker
Subject: your survey
Date: Sun Sep 30 13:22:26 2001

Message:
Talibans turned into spaghetti? Good idea, isn't it?

From: an Italian guy
To: aussie
Date: Sun Sep 30 13:34:51 2001

Message:
what?, "motherfuckers in usa"?? "now you know what it was like 
in sarayavo"?? What do this things mean, aussie? Who are you 
addressing and what do you mean?

From: America
To: Everyone
Subject: re:Peace Rally
Date: Sun Sep 30 13:33:44 2001

Message:
"International peace rally October 27" is what you wrote.  
You're an endless wealth of information.  

Peace at any price is not peace.  It is capitulation to those 
who wish to instill fear in the general population of the planet 
and subjugate us all to their will.  

I didn't see you holding a rally in Afghanistan last month.  So, 
what's the deal?  Where were your morals and ethics then?  I 
didn't see you rallying for more humanitarian aid for the 
Afghani people then either.  

How many are going to be at the rally for peace in Kabul?  Fill 
me in, please.

However, after terrorists of the worst kind have attacked the 
USA and visitors on her soil, after they have murdered more than 
6,000 civilians who were not at war, you're going to have a 
peace rally.  How nice!  Have a wonderful time, enjoy the 
company and make sure you bring some good music.

Or, if you really want to help, go to Pakistan, Iran or 
Afghanistan to help with the mass of humanity who are now 
refugees.  Or is that too much trouble?  It's so much easier to 
march and then go home.  



From: an Italian guy
To: the nameless above
Date: Sun Sep 30 13:47:37 2001

Message:
"This site sucks and so do the people that run it"? Then it's 
not a coincidene that you nameless run it too.

From: dc-10guy
To: italian guy
Subject: nice job
Date: Sun Sep 30 14:07:14 2001

Message:
the u.s.a. is good at war ... it's what we do best,just ask 
japan. w.s. shermmen said it best "war is hell" and we will have 
to show every terrorist in the world just that "war is hell" and 
than maybe the world will like us again ... but if they don't who 
gives a shit. 

From: an Italian guy
To: dc-10guy
Subject: reply
Date: Sun Sep 30 14:54:12 2001

Message:
I'm not sure to have understood... Are you a pacifist? If so, 
please tell me if you think that a pacifist attitude would now 
dissuade bin laden ot other terrorists by making further  
spectacular attacks to U.S.A., and that it would make the world 
to like the U.S.A. again. 

From: Frenchman
To: A Proud American
Subject: You're 100 % right
Date: Sun Sep 30 15:54:10 2001

Message:
I do entirely agree with you and I am fully aware of the pipe-
line deal Pakistan and the Taliban were lusting. The US should 
be very careful with Pakistan, for their intelligence service 
has radical muslims among its members who actually created the 
Taliban. Did you know that the leader of the Taliban, Mohamed 
Omar, is not a Mullah? He has absolutely no real Islam study 
credits. It's like a freshman student in a catholic seminar who 
all of the sudden becomes the Pope.Did you know that most of the 
Taliban did not carry arms during the Soviet-Afghan war. They 
chickened out in Pakistan in refugee camps. Did you know that 
Bin Laden, who always preach the Coran and who is a religious 
symbol among Islamic radicals, never had a degree or any 
accreditation in Coranic studies? He has a degree in Agriculture 
and Economics! But he advises and teaches Islamic principles to 
Omar. Did you know that brat Bin Laden would not have lasted 
long during the Soviet-Afghan war if it wasn't for Daddy's 
money. The real Mudjhidines did not respect him. For them, he 
was a spoiled kid who was useful for building roads and tunnels  
for the resistance. General Massoud was a real "freedom 
fighter". You probably heard of him, he is the current leader of 
the "Northern Alliance". He's presumed dead after a suicide 
bombing ambush in September 9th. The US and British press 
confirmed his death whereas the French and Swiss press claims 
they heard reports he is recovering from serious wounds in 
Tajikistan. I personnally hope he's still alive, for he has been 
fighting for the freedom of his people and his country for 30 
years. Massoud always claimed it is not in the Afghan culture to 
treat women and children like animals, to blow up ancient 
statues of Buddah etc... Mr. proud American, I agree with you, 
the Taliban need to go, but once it is done, I hope the US and 
western Europe won't abandon the Afghan people like they did in 
1989. But I am impressed with your President Bush, he is calm, 
measured and determined. I think he is more concerned about 
doing the most effective strike against terrorism rather than 
retaliate impulsevely and emotionnally just to feel good, and 
that is very wise and very smart.

From: Frenchman
To: French Canadian
Subject: Tu laisses a desirer
Date: Sun Sep 30 16:35:10 2001

Message:
Tout d'abord. laisse-moi te dire que ton francais laisse a 
desirer. Ensuite, ton ignorance n'a rien a envier a ton 
francais. Tu ne peux pas confondre les actes de fanatiques avec 
tous les Afghans et tous les Musulmans! Le Canada et les USA est 
forme d'immigrants. Si des mosques poussent comme des 
champignons, c'est de la faute des Chretiens qui ne sont pas 
fermes dans leur foi. Le meme probleme se produit en France 
depuis bien plus longtemps parce-que plus personne ne vas a la 
messe et plus personne tient ferme en Christ. Cependant, je suis 
d'accord sur le principe que toute personne de pres ou de loin 
impliquee a des organisations terroristes doit etre emprisonnee 
ou expulsee sur le champs!

From: Frenchman
To: Italian guy
Subject: Vero italiano?
Date: Sun Sep 30 16:47:26 2001

Message:
Come stai, amico mio? Are you a real Italian or a fifth 
generation Italian-American who only knows how to say salami and 
fettuccine? Yes, the Russian guy was mean  but he doesn't 
represent most of Russians. Remember, the Russkofs have been 
suffering from terrorism by the Tchechnians who were trained in 
Afghanistan by brat kid, Ousama Bin Laden!

From: 4A
To: All Terrorists
Date: Sun Sep 30 18:01:11 2001

Message:
The Taliban and all terrorist Jihad-minded towel-heads must be 
exterminated. You are a cancer which needs to be removed from 
the face of the planet. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were just 
practice tests. Prepare to meet Allah in the Lake of Fire.
-AAAA-

From: Spy
To: Russian Guy
Subject: read a little closer---
Date: Sun Sep 30 18:11:42 2001

Message:
Hey ---in the Bible, your military gets nuked off the face of 
the earth !   

From: Totally amazed
To: to the idiots
Date: Sun Sep 30 18:09:32 2001

Message:
It totally surprises me , the messages on here cussing and 
swearing like thats gonna solve anything, turn your anger and 
words into something useful, go join the military !!

To those who think the USA government deserved this because we 
interfere where we don't belong and in the next breath complain 
about the children in Iraq that aren't getting food or medical 
supplies from the outside to stay alive. WELL DUH think about 
that for a minute. Where do you think a majority of those 
supplies are coming from ...The Good Ole USA !!  If we stayed 
out they wouldn't be getting those supplies anyways would 
they !! And If we provide supplies we deserve to have 5000 
people murdered?? excuseeeeeeeeeee me but how in the hell do you 
figuire that one.

Do us all a favor think before you type and/or judge.

I support my country. Doesn't mean I have to agree with 
EVERYTHING it does but I will respect it, honor it and support 
it because it's given me the right to say I don't have to agree 
with everything it does.

And to that canadian living in the USA ....go home. You have 
absolutely no right to open your fat mouth while sitting in my 
country enjoying what we have fought for with an attitude like 
yours !! GO HOME !! I'm sure your family would love to see you 
with that attitude, oh wait maybe thats why your here ....not 
welcome in your own country anymore ??

From: Oi! Boy
To: bin Laden
Date: Sun Sep 30 18:20:12 2001

Message:
Ode to Osama bin Laden

We believe in freedom
Something you lack
You re ignorant and brainwashed
We re gonna kick your ass
Next time we see you on the street
Our steel-toed boots upon our feet
Next time we see your towel-head face
You re in our sites; we have the right
To shoot you down in justice
Osama bin Laden, where will you go?
Osama bin Laden, why don t you go to hell!
We believe in freedom
Something you lack
You re ignorant and brainwashed
We re gonna kick your ass
Next time we see you on the street
Our steel-toed boots upon our feet
Next time we see your towel-head face
You re in our sites; we have the right
To shoot you down in justice
(Oi! bands may use these lyrics)




From: Your Momma
To: every one on this sight
Subject: FUCK OFF
Date: Sun Sep 30 18:22:01 2001

Message:
You all talk a lot of shit.
find something to do..... for christ sake.
go out side enjoy the out doors and forget about what war might 
occur & who might win.
And to     dc-10guy     What are you on about! "the thing 
america does best is war" Thats why your run like a pack of 
bitches from Vietnam. (Vietnam) the one word americans hate 
being brought up. but lets face it they were much better at war 
fare than america ever was. So stop all the macho talk and let 
your presedent try and flex the muscle he thinks he has. Because 
it is not going to do any good anyway. You never got Saddam so 
what makes you think you can get Bin Laden?

From: Everyone
To: America
Subject: Peace Rally
Date: Sun Sep 30 18:32:03 2001

Message:
Just passing on the information-there ARE people who believe 
that war is not the ONLY solution; like the more than 20,000 
that attended the rally yesterday in Washington D.C. (some of 
whom were injured in the WTC).
Why wasn't that on the local news?

as for my personal life, here I am living in America, one of 
the 'working poor', doing the best I can to get my son through 
school and keep food on the table for him...so for me, going to 
Kabul is not in the picture, though I do what I can for those 
less fortunate than I am, and every month make some kind of 
charitable contribution.

We teach our children conflict resolution in school, telling 
them that fighting is not a viable solution to problems, then 
drop missiles in Kuwait & Somalia; provide arms to Israel and 
whatever other country happens to be in our back pocket at the 
time.  (Depends on who we're wining & dining for oil).

Many of the arms that bin Laden & his cohorts are using
were provided by us, and we cannot disregard the fact that we 
trained those hijackers in OUR flight schools; they go through 
their 'jihad' training on OUR soil.

How is it that even though many of those terrorists were on 
a 'watch list' by the FBI, they managed to get through and cause 
the destruction they did?  

There aren't any easy answers to these problems; and while 
bombing a few caves in Afghanistan may relieve the anger of 
some, it is not a solution.

On the one hand, I think bin Laden and his troupe should 
be 'taken out'; on the other, I think that maybe it's time for 
people to find some other means of solving problems...war 
obviously has never worked.

I also cannot escape feeling like a pawn in the Corporate scheme 
of things...how much of what is going on has to do with the 
pipelines the oil companies are trying to build over there?

Those in power have known about these terrorist groups for a 
long time, yet have continued funding them through oil 
money...bin Laden had many assets in OUR banks gained from his 
interests in oil that WE bought.  Why weren't his assets frozen 
BEFORE the attack on our cities?

I don't have the answers, do you?
Oh, and when are you going to Kabul?








  

From:
To:
Subject: picture :
Date: Sun Sep 30 19:58:09 2001

Message:
Go to http://63.208.24.134/Terrorism/images/Face.jpg



interesting:

From: S. Perez
To: Osama Bin Laden
Subject: The Koran
Date: Sun Sep 30 19:47:18 2001

Message:
"Never Kill An Enemy Who Doesn't Have A Sword (weapon) in his 

hand"

Never Kill A Woman

Do not Destroy any Building

Do Not Destroy a Tree if it has ONE green leaf on it



YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM

YOU ARE AN INSULT TO ALL PEACE LOVING MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD

YOU BLASPHEME ALLAHS' NAME

THE JUSTICE YOU WILL BE BROUGHT TO BEAR ON EARTH WILL BE 

MINISCULE COMPARED TO WHAT YOU WILL ENCOUNTER IN THE PRESENCE OF 

ALLAH

THERE WILL BE NO MERCY FOR YOU ON EARTH NOR IN PARADISE



SINCERLY

A CHRISTIAN MINISTER

From: Afghan Guy
To: All Americans
Subject: It is Afghanistan not Vietnam
Date: Sun Sep 30 20:05:44 2001

Message:
Remember you are dealing with Afghanistan, not Veitnam.

You will be killed there.

We love to have freedom and get rid of Taliban but we all are 

ready to kill any outsiders.


From: French
To: All
Subject: La r alit
Date: Sun Sep 30 20:02:38 2001

Message:
Les Taliban et Ben Laden asservissent et martyrisent et 

asservissent le peuple afghan.Faites preuve de discernement  

soyez capable d'identifier les vrais responsables.

Apr s 22 ans de guerre, le peuple afghan aspire   la paix.

Il serait facile de s'en prendre a un peuple affam  qui aspire   

la paix que de punir les v ritables responsables de la 

catastrophe du WTC.De telles pratiques ne seraient toutefois pas 

de nature   grandir l'image de ceux qui les entreprendraient.



Les Etats-Unis et tous les occidentaux doivent lutter ensemble 

contre le terrorisme, les Talibans et ceux qui les financent.




From: a little education
To: you poor ignorant bastard
Subject: really get a clue
Date: Sun Sep 30 18:52:57 2001

Message:
How do we even know how is resposible. We built the highway that 

led russia to afganistan in the seventies. Then we (the U.S.) 

trained men from other countries, like Bin Laden, to fight the 

russians. like any good MOB boss we did charitable acts to help 

publicly clear our names. The U. S. needs war to keep it's 

economy booming.                                                 

  The Taliban is not Afganistan and the their actions are not 

that or our fellow Christian religion - Islam which means "the 

will of God". Islam uses the bible as the base for it's religion 

and like Mormanism has a secondary book called the Quaran. 

Profitering, and pilfering, has been done all through history 

under the guise of holy war. Afganistan is now held hostage by 

the pirates of old. Hate is the weapon of Satan and I'm hearing a 

lot of hate on these pages. What happened to learn from thy 

enemies? Does any one pratice the true teachings of Jesus any 

more or do we keep our bibles shelved and listen to the 

propaganda of a war thriving economy.                            

  I am a poor man how benifit from a thinning of the population 

and new openings in the job market. If there is real proof that 

the Taliban is resposible, other then the warning that was posted 

three weeks prior and was ignored, then I say send your loved 

ones off to kill and die. Maybe there will be honor in that. 

From: The One
To:
Subject: A world without you
Date: Sun Sep 30 21:21:41 2001

Message:
AS SOON AS I HANG UP THIS PHONE...I AM GOING TO SHOW THEM...SHOW 

THEM A WORLD WITHOUT YOU...THIS WILL NOT BE THE END...BUT THE 

BEGINNING.

From: The One
To:
Subject: quotes, rhetoric, cliches, toilet paper, terrorist barbie dolls
Date: Sun Sep 30 21:33:32 2001

Message:
'IF YOU ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO PULL A GUN ON A MAN, YOU'D BETTER 

BE SMART ENOUGH TO PULL THE TRIGGER'

                           LT TO PRV WASHINGTON

                           BOYS IN COMPANY "C"



'WHEN YOU HAVE TO SHOOT? SHOOT, DON'T TALK"

                           TUCO TO HIS LEFT-HANDED NEMEISIS

                           THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY



'I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING, IT SMELLS LIKE...

VICTORY'

                            COWBOY CO OF THE 1ST CAV

                            APOCALYPSE NOW



'I TAWT I TAW A PUTTY TAT! I DID I DID I DID TAW A PUTTY TAT!"

                            TWEETY TO SYLVESTER



SGT HULKA AND HIS BIG TOE IS GOING TO SEE HOW FAR HE CAN STICK 

IT UP BIN-LADENS ASS.



HAHAHAHAHAHA BITE ME






From: America
To: Everyone
Subject: re: Peace Rally
Date: Sun Sep 30 20:44:32 2001

Message:
1.  You are RIGHT.  War is not the only solution.  My question 

is the same.  Why weren't you rallying for peace last month?



2.  I too am one of the working poor.  To say that you cannot go 

to Kabul is a copout.  Ask for donations, telling the donors 

what your intentions are:  to work for humanitarian relief and 

peace.  The poorest of the poor in this country live better than 

most people do in most countries.  We just don't realize it.  

What is the proof?  Look around you.  You obviously have a 

computer and a job of some kind.  And if you didn't have a job, 

you'd be eligible for food stamps.  This is a luxury the 

Afghanis don't have.  They don't even have an infrastructure.  

You can give a charitable contribution and then go back to the 

comfort of your apartment knowing the religious police the "Vice 

and Virtue Squad" of a Taliban is not going to come knocking on 

your door.



a) Conflict Resolution is ideal, but not always possible.  

Capitulation is simply not having the stomach to do the job 

which needs to be done.  Will you give your neighborhood and 

children up to whatever bad element moves in around you?  Or 

will you fight back and let them know that YOUR family, YOUR 

kids, YOUR neighbors, YOUR neighborhood is NOT fair game just 

because they came in and decided to kill and take it over!  Do 

you simply say "They killed my neighbor and I won't fight back, 

I'll just take it and we'll talk about it?"



b) We went to Somalia as a part of a UN humanitarian effort to 

feed the people of a country riddled with famine. For our 

efforts, instead of a simple thank you, or simply ignoring us, 

they shot us down and dragged the bodies of Americans through 

the streets.  



c) If it's acceptable to you for Iraq (a large country)to invade 

and take over Kuwait(an extremely small country), then you 

should have no problem with the USA doing much of anything.



d) Have you ever complained about the price of gas?  Well, if 

you have ever complained about the price of ANYTHING that is 

hauled by truck through this country (any number of products, to 

include food), then don't complain anymore. 



3.  You are right again.  We trained them on our soil in our 

flight schools.  We are an open and free society and graciously 

(as usual) issued visas based on the information that they were 

students.  Yes.  Our flight schools granted them admission and 

fully complied with our laws in not discriminating against them 

based on their national origin. 



a) They do NOT go through their jihad training on our soil.  The 

ideology is NOT one founded on American ideals.  We do NOT 

advocate killing in the name of God, regardless of what name you 

call God by.  If we did, Sirhan Sirhan, who murdered Bobby 

Kennedy would not be in jail now.  He'd be dead and we would 

have attacked the Middle East using religion as a PRETENSE.  How 

many times have you heard "We are a Christian nation"? We refuse 

to use that as an excuse to nuke the Middle East.



b) They managed to get through although on a "watch list" 

because, again, we are an open and free society.  We do not 

fingerprint and trail people as a matter of course.  They were 

already in the country when their names were added to the 

watch list.  How would you propose tracking them down? We 

watched the borders.  If you have any information, give it to 

the FBI.  If you have any ideas on how to prevent this from 

happening again, submit those ideas.  They may have value and 

may save lives in the future. 



4.  If you would listen to what the leadership of this country 

has said, you would understand that bombing a few caves has 

never even been considered as a viable solution.  Have we gone 

off half-cocked and bombed anyone?  If that were our objective, 

wouldn't Egypt be the first target?  Or Saudi Arabia?  Osama is 

Saudi.  Mohammed Atta was Egyptian.  We have completely 

different objectives.  

  

5.  Regarding taking Osama out:  Ok, I gave you a little more 

credit on this than I should have.  First of all, he is not 

alone.  Which Mafia leader should be taken out, or should any of 

them ever have been taken out?  Should we have sat down and had 

a talk with John Gotti and tried to work something out?  What 

about Ted Bundy?  What caused him to be a serial killer?  He 

obviously declared a war of his own on young women.  Should the 

police have tried to function as social workers and should the 

jury and judge have tried to find a means for him to work out 

his problems?  Or are there some things that people do that are 

just beyond the kind of redemption that human beings can confer?

If Ted Bundy (or any other heinous killer) is to be forgiven, it 

won't be by me.  That is up to God. I do not have the authority 

to forgive someone for crimes against humanity and the killing 

of innocent human beings.



6.  If you cannot help but feel like a pawn to Corporate 

America, then you need to look inside yourself and address the 

reasons why.  Somewhere along the line, we have been led to 

believe that this country owes us something.  Start looking up 

the lives of people who started with nothing more than an idea 

and made something of it.  Dave Thomas didn't have a GED and 

figured out how to make a fortune out of burgers.  Colonel 

Sanders peddled his freaking fried chicken recipe to everyone 

and anyone who would listen.  He had no takers for YEARS.  Look 

at the successes.  While it might be nice to be born into 

wealth, most of us are not.  Go make your own.  This country is 

the one place on the planet where you have that opportunity.



7.  His assest weren't frozen because:

a) they are hard to trace

b)Senator Phil Gramm (retiring this year) fought against it and 

won.



8.  The only answer I have at this point is to support the USA 

in this time of need.  We need to be strong.  This does not 

preclude peace.  I protested our involvement in Viet Nam.  I am 

not a hawk by nature.  However, in my opinion, if any of us are 

to protest against government policy at this time, it should be 

only the people who are directly related to the victims.  Would 

you have the Taliban stay in power and Afghanistan stay in its 

current position?  Would you relegate women to a sub-human 

stature?  Go to www.rawa.org and tell me what kind of peace 

these people will have if we don't do something.  What kind of 

peace will WE have if something is not done.



We are a sovereign nation and entitled to self-defense.  The 

people of Afghanistan are entitled to be treated like human 

beings.  



I have no plans to march in a peace rally.  I have no plans to 

go to Kabul.  If you can guarantee me the safety in the streets 

of Kabul that you enjoy in whatever American city you decide to 

rally in, I will go.  My voice will be heard.  I will do my 

part.  For now, I do my part by supporting my country's 

government.  This is NOT a case of my country right or wrong.  

It is a case of me believing that my country is right.  



I will not denigrate the memory of the 6,000 + Americans and 

visitors attacked on our soil by marching in a peace rally which 

will do nothing except cause divisiveness in this country.  If 

there are some 6,000 + victims, who were destroyed, not at war, 

but going to work like we do everyday, how many lives beyond 

that number do you think were touched?  We owe it to our 

children to insure that they will be as safe as they can be.  We 

owe it to the kids who have been orphaned by this act of 

terrorism.  You said you have a child.  Your child can see you 

today.  What about the kids who no longer have a parent, or any 

parent?  Do we just throw money at them?  



I am not opposed to peace.  I am opposed to terrorism. 

From: Headbuster
To:
Subject: One Billion Muslims
Date: Sun Sep 30 21:51:22 2001

Message:
One Billion Muslims 

  And Still Procreating



 More people have died in the name of religion than all other 

causes combined.   



That fact is sickening.



To the people of the world who wear diapers on their heads:  Bad 

Form  Camel Jocks.  



You people [Camel Jockeys] have access to the Internet and cell 

phones because of us [Unites States of America], a bit of 

advice, READ RECENT HISTORY, not the just the Koran.  



Ten points for any Arab answering this question correctly, take 

your time.   Who awoke the Sleeping Tiger again?   Was it Japan, 

Germany, Mexico, Canada or the Arabs?  Hint:  I smell burnt 

camel hair.   You got two  Twin-Towers  and another four points 

for your correct response to this question.  However, you got 

eradicated in the process.  Dead Arab babies.  I like that 

smell. 



You Arabs murdered between 4,000 and 7,000  Capitalists.   The 

horror that they must have felt as the  Twins  came tumbling 

down.   Believe us [U.S.],  We will avenge this murder.     You 

Camel Jocks aren t the only people who believe in  An EYE for an 

EYE?   Again,  I smell burnt camel hair!    



Burnt Camel hair is the smell of  Victory and Dead Arab 

Babies.   



I am not a chemist.  But I believe that the recipe for glass 

is  Heat plus Sand.   Toss in a NUKE, some silicon and a little 

moisture from Dead Camel Jock Babies, and  They ll see Allah.   



 IRAQ, IRAN, Afghanistan!!!,   IRAQ, IRAN, 

Afghanistan!!!,    IRAQ, IRAN, Afghanistan!!!   Watch for 

the  Pretty Blue Lights Arab.    I d walk a MILE to NUKE a 

Camel!   Arabs,  Get off my planet! 



I hear Tell that American Soldiers are instructed to hack off 

the right hand off of any Arab disabled in this war.  You people 

may want to end  IT  (Go see Allah) (Kill yourself Desert Rat) 

before we come.  You sub-creatures may have to start wiping your 

Asses in a different way.  



 IRAQ, IRAN, Afghanistan!!!,    Just has a  RING   to it.   

















 






From: HEADBUSTER
To:
Subject: ARABS
Date: Sun Sep 30 22:09:06 2001

Message:
"IRAQ, IRAN, Afghanistan!"



NUKE THE ARABS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




From: HEADBUSTER
To:
Subject: NUCLEAR WAR
Date: Sun Sep 30 23:07:30 2001

Message:
ERADICATE THE ARABS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: The One
To: Headbuster
Subject: Headbuster Has Spoken!
Date: Sun Sep 30 23:07:19 2001

Message:
AN AMERICAN CALLING JIHAD TO AMERICANS!

OR AN ANGRY PERSON VENTING...RAGE ON BRUTHA!

AND WE'LL HAVE PORK RIBS AND DRINK BUDS IN KABUL

SOMETIME SOON, THAT IS AFTER WE LIFT THOSE VEILS

AND KISS EVRY LAST ONE OF EM!

EWWWWWWWWW THE KISS OF DEATH! PORK!

PORK FOR EVERYONE!

P.S. THEY ALL THINK I AM INSANE



INSANITY IS RECURRING BEHAVIOR WITH THE EXPECTATION OF DIFFERENT 

OUTCOMES...YOU DECIDE...

From: The One
To: Peace Rally (those who fear themselves more than the enemy)
Subject: More sheep led quietly to slaughter
Date: Sun Sep 30 23:21:22 2001

Message:
GO AHEAD AND CRY FOR YOUR PEACE WHILE THE REST OF US GUARD THIS 

SHIP WITH EVERY MEANS POSSIBLE. I DO NOT WANT TO, NO, I REFUSE 

TO WATCH ANOTHER INCIDENT LIKE SPET 11TH. WHILE YOU ARE 

PEACEFULLY MARCHING LIKE A BUNCH OF SHEEP BEING LED TO SLAUGHTER 

BY YOUR OWN PIPEDREAM JOHN LENNON UNREALISTIC IDEAS, THE REST OF 

WILL BE GUARDING YOUR FREEDOM. HUMANS ARE VIOLENT BY NATURE. 

VIOLENT PEOPLE ONLY UNDERSTAND VIOLENCE, YOU MUST DESCEND AND 

SPEAK TO THEM IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE(VIOLENCE). WHILE YOU ARE 

COWED AND WAVING FLAGS, THEY ARE PREPARING BULLETS IN YOUR NAME. 

YOU WILL BE A SACRIFICE UPON THEIR ALTARS IN THE NAME OF THEIR 

GOD. AND WHAT OF YOUR COUNTRY? YOU WILL TURN YOUR BACKS IN THE 

NAME OF PEACE.

WHAT IF WASHINGTON HADN'T FOUGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE? WHAT IF 

ROOSEVELT HADN'T GONE AFTER HITLER AND JAPAN? WHAT IF...RALLY IN 

PEACE, TAKE YOUR CHANCES, BUT JUST IN CASE, WE'LL BE GAURDING 

THE DOOR WITH FIREPOWER.

AND YOU WILL CRITICIZE US FOR IT, BUT WE WILL DO OUR DUTY FOR 

YOUR FREEDOM. WE MUST, OR WE ARE LOST.

From: HEADBUSTER
To:
Subject: WAR on ARABS (Holy War)
Date: Sun Sep 30 23:11:47 2001

Message:
Bring it on you sub-creatures!  "Be carefull of what you wish 

for!" ARAB, "YOU JUST MAY GET IT!" You just may GET it!



You want a Jahad, "What exactly is Jahad?"  Is that the feeling 

your men (or your very hairy women) get just before your people 

fuck goats?  



For what purpose do you people [ARABS] hide those hairy, ugly-

assed bitches behind the towels and sheets.  "I'd be ashamed 

too, Jaja (John)."  You fucking ARABS!



I want nothing more, nor nothing less than an ARAB to stand up 

and fight me, fist to fist and "Man-to-Man."  "You feel FROGGIE, 

ARAB HOP!"  



Jaja = John or Goat Fucker (in ARABIC). 



You ARABS are notorious for your cowardous acts.  Lying is 

acceptible in the most of the "Cowards Religion." 



Just one of you, STAND UP.  Just one ARAB. 



"I smell burnt camel, dog and ARAB baby hair."



"THE SMELL OF VICTORY!"



"We will piss on your children's graves...."




From: Spy
To: civilized world
Subject: "from around the world"
Date: Sun Sep 30 23:52:08 2001

Message:
You will never be able to "work things out" with  Saddam,bin 

Laden,and the likes of them. They have only one goal.

 They must be eliminated.  















From the I.C.P. :





Revealed: Executioner tells of mass slaughter in Saddam's 

jailsSunday December 3, 2000



An ex-member of the security service in Baghdad has given 

chilling details of how he helped slaughter countless 

prisoners. Peter Beaumont reports : Qusay's squads 

started the killing at 6am, with one shot to the head



Special report: Iraq



Sunday December 3, 2000



An Iraqi officer from the organisation charged with protecting 

President Saddam Hussein has described in astonishing 

detail how he personally oversaw the murders of thousands 

of prisoners on Saddam's orders. 



The testimony, by a defector from Iraq's Mukhabarat internal 

security service, marks the first time that a member of 

Saddam's regime - and one who denies he is a 'dissident' - 

has admitted involvement in mass murder on behalf of 

Saddam and his sons, Uday and Qusay. The evidence 

provided by Khalid al-Janabi, formerly a captain in the 

Mukhabarat, confirms in horrifying detail reports earlier this 

year describing Saddam's prison 'cleansing' massacres in 

1998. 



He also reveals fresh details of the operation of the 

Mukhabarat's secret mechanisms of fear and repression 

told uniquely from the perspective of one of Saddam's 

killers, not one of his victims. 



Janabi, who escaped to Jordan last year, served as an 

officer in the Mukhabarat from 1979 to 1999. He is a 

member of the extensive Janabi clan, many of whose 

members have been loyal servants of Saddam and his 

family. He fled Iraq, however, after the execution of his 

brother, General Kamil Sachit al-Janabi, who had been a 

senior military governor in Kuwait during Iraq's occupation. 



Khalid al-Janabi's testimony was given in long interviews 

with Radio Free Iraq. The details have, however, been 

corroborated by diplomatic sources. Janabi's most 

devastating testimony relates to the events that occurred 

after 15 March 1998, the day that Saddam's personal office 

issued a directive to 'clean' Iraq's prisons. 



The task, his account makes clear, was regarded as a 

bureaucratic as well as a physical problem to be overcome. 

To this end, Saddam ordered the creation of 'supervisory 

committees' to oversee the killings at each prison. On 20 

March, says Janabi, he and three officers from other state 

bodies were appointed as the 'supervisory committee' to 

select and oversee the liquidation of 2,000 prisoners at Abu 

Ghraib prison. 



'On 15 March 1998, we were advised of a Revolution 

Command Council decision to clean up the prisons. The 

Presidency Office and the Special Security Forces ordered 

the security services to set up a committee comprising 

representatives from Military Intelligence, Public Security, 

Special Security, and the Mukhabarat to act as a supervisory 

body at Abu Ghraib prison.' 



On 26 April - two days before Saddam's birthday - the 

President's son Qusay visited the prison as Special Security 

Forces men surrounded the compound and provided 

protection. Qusay, accompanied by the prison governor, 

Hassan al-Amiri, entered a section of the jail containing five 

barracks around a large hall and inquired about the 

inmates. 



According to Janabi, most had been sentenced to long jail 

terms,while a few were expecting to be released. 'Most of 

them were from the south, accused of joining parties and 

taking part in (anti-government) activities,' said Janabi. 

'There was, of course, no foundation for such accusations, 

but accusing people of such activity is standard procedure. 

Most seemed quite helpless to me and didn't appear likely 

to threaten Saddam Hussein. They had just been dragged 

in from the Marshes and thrown into Abu Ghraib.' 



Qusay gave the governor orders to execute the inmates in 

those barracks the next day. Although the governor 

protested it was impossible to execute that many people in 

a single day, Qusay insisted on the killings. According to 

Janabi, the killing began in earnest at 6am the following 

day. Firing squads, assembled under the supervision of the 

governor and Janabi's 'committee', brought the prisoners in 

groups to be shot in several indoor chambers. Other 

inmates were hanged in a special 'hanging hall'. Janabi 

says the usual method for execution by firing squad is two 

bullets in the chest followed by a shot to the head. However, 

the pressure of killing so many meant that they were only 

shot in the head. 



'Abu Ghraib prison has five gallows,' explains Janabi. 'Some 

were hanged. Others were shot. Each victim was shot once 

in the head. Even worse, the bodies of many of those who 

were executed were not handed over to their families. There 

is a cemetery nearby, the Al-Karkh Cemetery. If you go there 

you will see a sign pointing to a "special path". Many of the 

victims were buried there with only numerical identification.' 



By 9pm, 2,000 inmates had been killed. Janabi defends his 

role in the murders as being under institutional duress.'The 

executions themselves were carried out by prison 

specialists, but what was the governor to do? How could he 

argue when the place was surrounded by Qusay's armed 

men? One has to accept such a situation. We were, after all, 

under orders...' 



Janabi also provided a chilling view of the sexual blackmail 

used by Saddam's secret services. 



'One of our directorates,' Janabi said, 'known as the 

Directorate of Technical Operations, specialises in moral 

matters.' What Janabi describes next is the systematic 

corruption and threatening of whole families, often by 

women operating for the Mukhabarat. 



He continues: 'Take a military commander. Let's assume 

that this officer has a daughter and that she is talking on the 

phone... The Mukhabarat has been monitoring this senior 

official's phone. Let's now assume that she is talking to a 

lover. The recording is in their hands and they exploit it. 



'They choose a day when the officer is on duty. They go to 

the house and talk to his wife. They tell her... they have been 

monitoring her husband's affairs. They tell her that they have 

a cassette recording of her daughter talking to a young man 

about love and such matters, "and we intend to have your 

husband listen to it". 



'They then say to the mother: "We need something from you, 

and we want you to carry it out whether you like it or not. We 

will give you a copy of the cassette and keep the original, but 

we won't tell your husband about it. If you choose to resist 

us, we have special houses everywhere... your daughter can 

be kidnapped, sexually assaulted and filmed". 



'Such a film is not shown immediately. The tape is then kept 

at the Mukhabarat until the day when Saddam Hussein 

suspects the officer of working against him. He summons 

the officer and says to him: "See how we have preserved 

your honour by keeping this under wraps, while you choose 

to work against us".' 



About 90 women officers are involved in blackmail 

operations under the supervision of Qusay. 



Asked why he had decided to speak out now, Janabi says: 

'We are the ones who protect Saddam, and it is we who 

have brought Saddam to where he is now. We cannot 

remain silent while Saddam dishonours us, in exchange for 

our positions and our interests.' 



Foreign Office Minister Peter Hain said: 'Nobody should 

forget Saddam's evil bestiality. Those who want the United 

Nations to abandon sanctions and walk away are inviting 

him to terrorise Iraqi Kurds in the north, his neighbours and 

the region with horrendous violence.'



 









 



From the I.N.C. :

 



09/30/2001 : "Saddam has germ warfare arsenal, says 

defecting physicist" 



Saddam has germ warfare arsenal, says defecting physicist 



SADDAM HUSSEIN has directed his top scientists to work 

exclusively on expanding his chemical and biological 

weapons arsenal, one of the regime's former senior 

scientists has told The Telegraph. 



He said Saddam has ordered the nuclear weapons 

programme to be shelved because it had proved too 

expensive. The disclosures by the nuclear physicist, a 

recent Iraqi defector, will add to the alarm of Western 

leaders who last week issued a warning of the prospect of 

chemical attacks on European and American targets.



Military experts said Saddam's decision could have been 

linked to the attacks on New York's World Trade Centre and 

the Pentagon, which investigators believe were planned 

years in advance.



Over the past six months about 3,000 physicists and 

chemists have been working flat out on secret programmes 

to develop both toxins and the means to deploy them to 

lethal effect, according to Dr al Sabiri (not his real name).



The scientist formerly worked at the Atomic Energy 

Organisation in Baghdad, but defected because of his 

growing horror of the regime. "I created death in Iraq. I had 

to get out," he said. Details of Dr al Sabiri's defection cannot 

be revealed because of fears for his safety.



"I was asked to examine hundreds of complicated and 

dangerous toxins," he said. "They were very easy to use to 

create germs. You could put them in water or steam, throw 

them in the air or use them in the soil. We developed nerve 

gas, botulism and anthrax.



"One day a light green yellow substance, which was 

crystallised and packed in tins, arrived. Suddenly 

intelligence men came in and rushed it away. I later found 

out they were working on some secret project."



All these substances were tested on Iraqi prisoners, mainly 

Kurds and Shi'ites in Radwania jail, in west Baghdad. The 

projects are headed by Prof Shaher Mahmoud al Jibouri, a 

chemist and secret service agent. Senior Western 

intelligence officers confirmed the experimentation on 

prisoners. 



"Between April and May this year, 30 prisoners died after 

being used in experiments," said one. Earlier this month 

The Telegraph revealed that at least 20 Iraqi soldiers had 

died and about 200 were injured after a chemical weapons 

training exercise had gone wrong. 



Dr al Sabiri spent five years in the organisation's Neutron 

Analysis and Activation Department. Scientists, paid about 

 10 a month, worked exclusively on analysing substances, 

mostly imported, in order to copy and produce more. Using 

a small nuclear reactor, they are able to establish the exact 

composition of a substance.



There was a shortage of material, which was why he was 

told to copy the samples that he was given. At one stage he 

was asked to reproduce a wax, crucial for use in firing 

ballistic missiles. This he did with the help of several 

Bulgarian scientists. "Ballistic missiles," he said, "is just 

one method they want to use to spread the poisons."



More importantly, he said, the regime is currently working on 

adapting 12 pilotless aircraft, last used in the Iran-Iraq war 

during the 1980s. "Engineers are now working on 

developing their range. So far they have managed a range of 

700 miles," he said.



"The planes could easily reach Israel, Iran, Turkey or Saudi 

Arabia. The idea is to use them to deploy the toxins." Most of 

the parts, he added, were imported.



A senior Western intelligence officer said last night that at 

least 30 front companies, mainly pharmaceutical firms, are 

under investigation for supplying Iraq. They are based in 

Italy, Thailand, the Philippines and the United Arab 

Emirates. The companies cannot be named for legal 

reasons.



The defector's disclosures refute comments by Tariq Aziz, 

Iraqi deputy prime minister, who last week denied that the 

regime had any biological weapons. Last week Paul 

Wolfowitz, the United States deputy defence secretary, told 

Nato colleagues of "the alarming coincidence between 

states that harbour international terrorists and those states 

that have active, maturing programmes of WMD [weapons of 

mass destruction]."



American hardliners are said to be keen to attack Iraq as 

soon as possible, and believe that aerial bombardment is 

sufficient. British defence advisers, however, have warned 

Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, against this. 



It is unwise, they say, while there is no suitable successor 

to Saddam. One intelligence official added: "The other 

problem is, we have no idea where Saddam is."



By Jessica Berry in Beirut

Source:News .telegraph.co.uk 








From: THE US
To: ALL TERRORISTS
Subject: AFGHANISTAN
Date: Mon Oct 1 00:19:44 2001

Message:
This is the last straw ~ After watching a man skinned to death 

by the Taliban on CNN I speak for anyone with a shred of human 

decency when I say that NO MEMBER OF YOUR TALIBAN GOVERNMENT 

WILL ESCAPE WITH THEIR LIVES.  WE WILL EXTERMINATE YOU FOR YOUR 

CRIMES AGAINST US, YOUR PEOPLE, AND HUMANITY!!

From: The One
To: Iraqi's everywhere
Subject: Profiles in Arab Courage, Part 1
Date: Mon Oct 1 00:28:02 2001

Message:
REMEMBER WHEN YOU INVADED KUWAIT? AND THE WORLD WAS JUST 

SUPPOSED TO LET IT GO? OH JUST ARABS BEATING ON OTHER ARABS, NO 

BIGGIE...BUT THE WORLD DIDN'T TAKE IT.

OH AND HOW WE FEARED YOUR ELITE REPUBLICAN GUARD AND THEIR STATE 

OF THE ART SOVIET WEAPONRY? THEN I REMEMBER THE MOST AMAZING 

DEMONSTRATION OF TACTICAL AND STRATEGIC WARFARE EVER COORDINATED 

BY MANKIND. AND OH HOW YOU RAN! YOU SURRENDERED BY THE 

THOUSANDS! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS DEAD LYING SCATTERED IN YOUR 

DESERTS! WHAT A PRICE! NO BIGGIE FOR ARABS...THEY LOVE KILLING 

EACH OTHER AND THEY LIKE IT BETTER WHEN WE KILL THEM FOR THEY 

HAVE SOMEONE ELSE TO BLAME.

SOVIET WEAPONRY PERFORMED AS MISERABLY AS YOUR SOLDIERS. 

(INNOCENT MEN AND BOYS STARVED FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR ASSWIPE 

DICTATOR)

THEN I REMEMBER THE MASS EXODUS OF YOUR LOOTING HEROIC SOLDIERS 

FLEEING KUWAIT CITY, THE MASSIVE TRAFFIC JAM THAT LOOKED LIKE 

THE 405 LOOP OUT OF LONG BEACH ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON. GUNSHIPS, 

A-10 WARTHOGS, F-14'S, MY GOD THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS 

COULDN'T KEEP THE PATTERN CLEAR. IT WAS A ROYAL SLAUGHTER 

REMEMBER? LIKE SHOOTIN FISH INNA BARREL!ALL YOUR LOOTED TV'S AND 

FURNITURE LAY BURNING ON THAT ROAD, OUR PILOTS HESITATING TO 

FIRE THIER WEAPONS BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TOO GOD-DAMN EASY (PAY 

ATTENTION AFGHANISTAN). MY HOW YOU PERFORMED VALIANTLY! LIGHTING 

OIL FIELDS ON FIRE, SPILLING OIL INTO THE GULF, LIKE A CRANKY 2 

YEAR OLD THAT NEEDS A NAP!

I AM STILL LAUGHING AT IT. WHAT A JOKE.

SO YOU NOW HAVE BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS? GREAT! HERE'S THE CHALLENGE.

I AM SURE YOU ARE ALL TOO STUPID NOT TO COOPERATE...

USE EM ON US, JUST FUCKIN BRING IT. AND THEN I PROMISE THE RUINS 

OF MESOPOTAMIA WILL NO LONGER MATTER TO ANYONE ON THIS EARTH.

THE MEGLAMANIAC WILL BE ENCASED IN GLASS FOR ETERNITY. EVEN WOLF 

BLITZER WILL CRY FOR POOR SADDAM! EVEN HEADBUSTER WILL FEEL 

SORRY FOR SADDAM! 



PROFILES IN ARAB COURAGE PART 2 WILL ADDRESS THE 6 DAY SKIRMISH

(WAR) AGAINST THE TOUGHEST LITTLE BITCH NATION ON EARTH...ISRAEL

YAS SIR! STAY TUNED!

From: Mujiamin
To: Afgan people
Subject: True
Date: Mon Oct 1 00:47:28 2001

Message:
Is it true some Americans soldiers haven captured? If so, please 

give some details.  As you know there is a black-out on news 

regarding operations over there.

From: Mujiamin
To: Afgan people
Subject: True
Date: Mon Oct 1 00:58:53 2001

Message:
Still waiting for some info about the war!



Mujiamin 

From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:12:43 2001

Message:
The meaning of White Christian Revival is very simple. Revival 

means to turn away from a state of neglect.  If something is 

neglected than soon it will die away.  If you forget to feed the 

gold fish or to water a plant for too long...they will soon die. 



White Christians have been neglected - the ideas of the founders 

of America have been neglected.  The politicians and the media 

seems to care only about minority children.  Its as if they 

forgot that in the whole world the white people are the real 

minorities.  It might not seem like it but white people are in 

danger of becoming extinct just like the dinosaurs.



White Christian Revival means to start paying attention to white 

Christians.  It means we should care about what happens to white 

people.  Sure its ok to care about what happens to other 

people.  We think its terrible that little children are forced 

to work in slave labor camps in China making stuff like Nike 

tennis shoes that American kids get to buy cheaper - why just 

because the Chinese kids get paid only a few cents an hour to 

work.  And in Africa there are thousands of kids who are 

starving.  In India where hundreds of millions of people live 

they commonly kill baby girls because they are considered a 

useless mouth to feed.  There are terrible things happening 

around the world.  We think all of these things are very sad.



But you know, that's another thing that white people as a whole 

have to be proud of, because through the history of the world 

white people have tried to help the starving, the over worked, 

the beaten down, poor and sick people all over the world.  The 

white Christian people have tried to go all over the world 

telling everyone the good news about Jesus and how following the 

laws of the Bible will help them.  White Christians have been a 

blessing to the world.  It would be a terrible thing if white 

Christians didn't exist any more or were outlawed by politicians 

who didn't understand how much white Christians helped the 

earth. Its important for white Christians to love their heritage.




From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:13:38 2001

Message:
You have to believe in Jesus and be a Christian to join The 

Knights.  Some times it is hard to find a good church to go to.  

In the book of Revelations in the Bible it talks about seven 

different groups of churches that would exist between the time 

that Jesus died on the cross and the time that he came back to 

be the King of the world.  The name of the last church group 

(all the churches together) was called the Laodecean. But that 

word translated into English means the church of human rights.  

But the church of human rights wasn't a good thing.  Sure, they 

still believed in Jesus, but they were so worried about all the 

human rights in the world that they got tricked by the anti-

Christ.  For example: The Bible says it is wrong to be gay and 

they should be punished, but then everyone starts to feel sorry 

for them - wants to give them special rights- and then everyone 

involved disobeyed the Bible.  Or what about murder.  The Bible 

says if you murder someone and it wasn't for self defense or 

defense of your family or country that you should have to die.  

But then people start to feel sorry for the murderer more than 

the poor victim and want to have special rights for the 

murderer.  Everyone wants to blame others when they get into 

trouble.  Bad people get away with doing evil things.  The Bible 

says not to adulterate your blood (race mix), but then they do 

and white people get closer and closer to extinction.  After all 

the people of the world are mixed and criminals have all the 

human rights then it will be easy for the new anti-Christ 

government to control the world.  



The Bible warns us about this last church group.  God says they 

are "neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm and he will spit them 

out of his mouth".  The preachers and the church leaders of this 

time (the time we live in now) would make God sick.  They will 

not stand for what is right.  They don't want to say anything 

about gays or racemixers, because it isn't popular. They might 

be called horrible names and be persecuted if they preach what 

is the truth.  Most of the preachers today deceive the people 

who trust them.  Now, we live in a world where there are drugs, 

baby killers, murderers, robbers, etc.  It is a curse because we 

have stopped living Christian lives and we have given in to gays 

and racemixers like the ones in Sodom and Ghommorrah.  It is sad 

that there aren't very many good churches out there any more.  



Sometimes members of the klan can find good Churches to go to 

and then they are so happy.  If they can't find a good church to 

go to then the Klan members will teach their children about 

Jesus at home and have small church meetings with their own 

family.



The whole point is for us to love Jesus, to be nice to other 

Christians, and to follow the laws of the Bible.  




From: USA#1 Rebel
To: Afghanistan
Subject: 911
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:12:52 2001

Message:
We are gonna kick your ASS!!!

From: USA#1 Rebel
To: Afghanistan
Subject: 911
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:12:52 2001

Message:
We are gonna kick your ASS!!!

From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:15:54 2001

Message:
Is "White Power" really the answer to the survival of our race?



by Jost Turner



"You can buy a White man for a compliment, let alone $60,000 a 

year!" These words describe the frustration and disgust of an 

educator in the public school system after years of watching the 

predominantly White administrators and teachers unquestioningly 

affirm, expand, and implement with religious fanaticism, every 

new dictum of political correctness - the new State Religion -

which slithers down from the educational hierarchy - regardless 

of logic or consequence! This is White Power in action. 



The words White Power adorn reams of White racialist literature, 

posters, and stickers. They embellish telephone messages, 

tattoos, and quasi National Socialist salutes. White Power is a 

universal demand of much of the White racial movement, and it is 

looked upon with great longing as the final savior of a world 

gone mad. But the joke's on us, because White Power is exactly 

what we have today, and what we have had every day that this 

world has been going mad. It is time we faced some cold, hard 

facts. Most any Jewish activist will happily point out that Bill 

Clinton is just about as White as they come, as has been every 

other president before him.. At no time in the history of this 

country has the vast majority of the Senate or House of 

Representatives been anything other than lily White. The Supreme 

Court has always been predominantly White, as are government 

police agencies such as the FBI. The Federal Bureaucracy is 

still largely White, and all no-Whites therein have been given 

their jobs by the White Federal hierarchy. State governments are 

White, as are most municipal and county governments. The courts 

on all levels are still predominantly White. A clear majority of 

the voters in this county are White, and the majority of the tax-

payers are White. A majority of corporation CEOs and board 

members are White, and there are even enough Whites in positions 

of power throughout the media to counter Jewish influence. 

Finally, there are more wealthy Whites than Jews or other ethnic 

groups. All of our enemies would point out that this nothing 

more nor less than White Power! 



The fact is that there are more than enough White voters, Whites 

in positions of governmental and police power, and White 

financial muscle to ship out every single Jew, Negro Asian, 

Latino , and other non-White on the next boat! But instead, 

every one of these elements of White Power encourage the 

immigration of still more non-Whites in the country and 

disenfranchise their own White brethren-either by direct power 

(government, police and financial) or seeming indifference 

(voters). The situation we have today is a direct consequence of 

200+ years of White Power. How the Jews and non-Whites must howl 

with laughter when they hear us shout "White Power". You want 

it? You got it! At the rate that White Power is exuberantly 

staffing the government, courts, bureaucracies, and police with 

non-Whites, it won't be long before we see an end to White 

Power. 



Perhaps this will be for the better. Perhaps then a few more 

Whites will begin to reconsider their position. We definitely 

have White Power, but why does it serve only to destroy us? The 

answer was pointed out by Adolf Hitler: "As soon as egoism 

become the ruler of a Folk, the bands of order are loosened, and 

in the chase after their own happiness men fall from heaven into 

a real hell." Egoism is self-absorption. Today, most White are 

very self-absorbed, not only with financial accumulation, but 

even more with societal position or image. 



In this state of egoism, they can be easily manipulated and 

controlled by simple compliments or ego-strokes to their 

position, authority, identity, status, education, or 

intelligence. It's that simple, and it works! This, not to 

mention a salary in the five or six figure bracket, is how 

university administrators, instructors, and students are so 

easily manipulated into ratifying, embracing and further 

preaching virtually every nonsensical decree of political 

correctness as a new State Religion!. They go on to initiate the 

doctrines of this State Religion not all the different 

governmental, judicial, corporate, media and educational 

positions of power to which they gravitate. That's White Power. 



The working class is just as susceptible. They are self-absorbed 

with their own status and intelligence, and, responding to ego-

stimulation by television and motion picture media 

personalities, they too feel the gratification of the 

politically correct thinking of the new State Religion - not to 

mention social security, health insurance and retirement! That's 

White Power. The great majority of Whites are far too self 

absorbed to consider the effect of all this political 

correctness on the future of their children. Most are far too 

self-absorbed to worry about the welfare of their children, let 

alone their Folk or arena are being denigrated by self-styled 

racial writers and leaders who have never made any comparable 

contributions to the struggle. This, too, is White Power. 



Egoism in the White racial movement is not confined to the 

leadership. Virtually overnight, a handful of "Hollywood Nazis" 

destroyed years of careful, successful work which we had done to 

demolish media distortions and show the residents of a small 

California county the nature of true National Socialists. Almost 

as soon as they arrived, these "neo-nazis" wiped out everything 

we had accomplished with pointless flag burnings, intimidations, 

threats, violence (against Aryan women!), and, of course, 

parading around in their childish "White Power" tee shirts. 



These media-scripted, un-Aryan "neo-Nazi" activities were not 

even aimed at non-Whites, Jews, or left-wing activists. There 

are few non-whites in that county, and none in the affected 

town. These childish antics were all directed at Whites, most of 

whom had no interests at all in urban racial problems. Any 

observer could see that everything done was to gratify fragile 

egos. Now, a whole county will never again be receptive to any 

message of National Socialism. That's White Power. If we are to 

survive as an Aryan Folk and as a White race, a sizeable portion 

of us must follow the guidelines of Adolf Hitler and get beyond 

egoism. We must banish our self-absorption, and put all or our 

own personal desires, interest, and welfare of our Folk and 

race. This is not "White Power". This is National Socialism! 



This "revolution in thought", the higher idealism of Folk-

consciousness, is what created the great social and economic 

miracles of National Socialist Germany. To survive, we must 

begin right now to build a solid foundation of Folk-

consciousness, first within our own lives, then educating others 

who are already racially aware, and finally offering it to those 

who become disillusioned by self-aggrandizement and egoism. We 

should replace that inappropriate, embarrassing slogan of "White 

Power" with one word which carries the connotations of a new 

consciousness and a new age: Folk! 


From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:21:42 2001

Message:
There are long range goals and short range goals.  Some of our 

short range goals are to tell people our beliefs, to help people 

figure out that the media lies about many things, and to get 

people to love their heritage and care about the future of their 

particular race, whether they are white, black, Asian, etc.



Our very farthest long range goal is peace on Earth.  As 

Christians we know that Jesus has promised us peace on earth one 

day.  



Until that time comes we believe that God wants us to teach the 

Bible and to have a land where Christians aren't persecuted.  



This is why the white Christians came to this place called 

America which was named by a Christian man and it means the 

Kingdom of God.



In Europe the different countries' laws said that you had to go 

to this church or that church and had to believe the exact same 

thing about the Bible. So the Pilgrims came and together with 

their descendents formed a Christian government.  The laws said 

you could be Methodist, or Baptist, or Catholic, or Lutheran , 

etc. but if you wanted to teach or hold public office you had to 

be a Christian.  They knew that Christianity was the key to 

liberty.



Every boy and girl were taught the virtues of the 10 

commandments in school. If someone wasn't a Christian they could 

still live here, but they weren't allowed to do anything that 

could in any way do harm to Christians or the Christian faith.  

America was the first Christian government.  Even the idea of 

separation of powers into 3 groups was from the Bible. America 

was a great Christian nation.  



America is still a great nation, but lots of bad things are 

happening everyday.  Moms are killing their little helpless 

babies, men are wanting to marry other men and have boyfriends, 

women are wanting to date other women.  Murderers get to go free 

from prison all the time.  Adults who hurt children hardly have 

to go to jail at all.  The TV shows and movies make fun of 

Christians.  They lie and say that white people are doing all of 

these terrible things to black people. They say the whole world 

should join under one big government which would control all the 

countries and people.  



Doesn't anyone ever think that maybe in the future the anti-

Christ is a one world government that controls all the people 

and says we must all become one color.  There will be no more of 

God's rainbow then. 



No, we don't want this to happen. People are getting tricked. 

They say they believe in diversity, but you can't have diversity 

if every one in the world mixes up into the same thing.



The Goals of the Knights of the KKK are easy.  We want to have a 

Christian America again.  We want to look out for the true 

worlds minority - the white people - then we can help look after 

the other people in the world.  The Bible says that if we take 

care of our Christian brothers and sisters and live a good 

Christian life then our country will be blessed.  When our 

nation is blessed again by God and there aren't so many terrible 

things happening in America to the white Christians, God will 

multiply our blessings and then we can be a blessing to all the 

children of the world.




From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:21:42 2001

Message:
There are long range goals and short range goals.  Some of our 

short range goals are to tell people our beliefs, to help people 

figure out that the media lies about many things, and to get 

people to love their heritage and care about the future of their 

particular race, whether they are white, black, Asian, etc.



Our very farthest long range goal is peace on Earth.  As 

Christians we know that Jesus has promised us peace on earth one 

day.  



Until that time comes we believe that God wants us to teach the 

Bible and to have a land where Christians aren't persecuted.  



This is why the white Christians came to this place called 

America which was named by a Christian man and it means the 

Kingdom of God.



In Europe the different countries' laws said that you had to go 

to this church or that church and had to believe the exact same 

thing about the Bible. So the Pilgrims came and together with 

their descendents formed a Christian government.  The laws said 

you could be Methodist, or Baptist, or Catholic, or Lutheran , 

etc. but if you wanted to teach or hold public office you had to 

be a Christian.  They knew that Christianity was the key to 

liberty.



Every boy and girl were taught the virtues of the 10 

commandments in school. If someone wasn't a Christian they could 

still live here, but they weren't allowed to do anything that 

could in any way do harm to Christians or the Christian faith.  

America was the first Christian government.  Even the idea of 

separation of powers into 3 groups was from the Bible. America 

was a great Christian nation.  



America is still a great nation, but lots of bad things are 

happening everyday.  Moms are killing their little helpless 

babies, men are wanting to marry other men and have boyfriends, 

women are wanting to date other women.  Murderers get to go free 

from prison all the time.  Adults who hurt children hardly have 

to go to jail at all.  The TV shows and movies make fun of 

Christians.  They lie and say that white people are doing all of 

these terrible things to black people. They say the whole world 

should join under one big government which would control all the 

countries and people.  



Doesn't anyone ever think that maybe in the future the anti-

Christ is a one world government that controls all the people 

and says we must all become one color.  There will be no more of 

God's rainbow then. 



No, we don't want this to happen. People are getting tricked. 

They say they believe in diversity, but you can't have diversity 

if every one in the world mixes up into the same thing.



The Goals of the Knights of the KKK are easy.  We want to have a 

Christian America again.  We want to look out for the true 

worlds minority - the white people - then we can help look after 

the other people in the world.  The Bible says that if we take 

care of our Christian brothers and sisters and live a good 

Christian life then our country will be blessed.  When our 

nation is blessed again by God and there aren't so many terrible 

things happening in America to the white Christians, God will 

multiply our blessings and then we can be a blessing to all the 

children of the world.




From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:23:54 2001

Message:
WE BELIEVE in YHVH the one and only true and living eternal God 

(Isa. 44:6); the God of our fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob 

(Exo. 3:14-16), the Creator of all things (1 Cor. 8:6) who is 

omnipotent, omnipresent, unchangeable and all-knowing; the Great 

I Am who is manifested in three beings: God the Father, God the 

Son, and God the Holy Spirit, all one God (Deut. 6:4). 



WE BELIEVE the entire Bible, both Old and New Testaments, as 

originally inspired, to be the inerrant, supreme, revealed Word 

of God. The history, covenants, and prophecy of this Holy Book 

were written for and about a specific elect family of people who 

are children of YHVH God (Luke 3:38; Psalm 82:6) through the 

seedline of Adam (Gen . 5.1). All scripture is written as a 

doctrinal standard for our exhortation, admonition, correction, 

instruction and example; the whole counsel to be believed, 

taught and followed (II Tim. 3:16. Acts. 20:27). 



WE BELIEVE Yahshua the Messiah (Jesus the Christ) to be the 

incarnate begotten son of God, the Word made flesh (John 1:14), 

born of the Virgin Mary in fulfillment of divine prophecy (Isa. 

7:14; Luke 1:27) at the appointed time, having had His eternal 

existence as one with the Father before the world was (John 

17.5, 21-22). 



WE BELIEVE in the personally revealed being of God the Holy 

Spirit, the Comforter (John 15:26, 16:7), who was sent by God 

the Son to glorify Him (John 16:14) and teach us all truth (John 

14:26, 16:13; I Cor. 2:10-12) according to promise (Ezek. 36:25-

27; Acts 2:33; Eph. 1:13-14). The Holy Spirit is sent to dwell 

in (I Cor. 3:16; John 14:17) the members of the body of Christ, 

giving unto each different gifts (I Cor. 12) empowering them to 

witness (Acts 1:8) of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment 

(John 14:17; I Cor. 2:14), which God sent forth to His sons 

(Gall. 4:6), thus identifying the children of Israel (Isa. 44:1-

3, 59:20-21; Haggai 2:5; Rom. 8:16) in this world. 



WE BELIEVE that God the Son, Yahshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ), 

became man in order to redeem His people Israel (Luke 1:68) as a 

kinsman of the flesh (Heb. 2:14-16; Rom. 9:3-5)/ died as the 

Passover Lamb of God on the Cross of Calvary finishing His 

perfect atoning sacrifice for the remission of our sins (Matt. 

26:28); He arose from the grave on the third day (I Cor. 15.4) 

triumphing over death; and ascended into Heaven where He is now 

reigning at the right hand of God (Mark 16:19). 



WE BELIEVE in the literal return to this Earth of Yahshua the 

Messiah (Jesus Christ) in like manner as He departed (Acts 

1;11), to take the Throne of David (Isa. 9;7; Luke 1;32) and 

establish His everlasting Kingdom (Dan. 2:44; Luke 1:33; Rev. 

11:15). Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that 

He is King of kings and Lord of lords (Phil. 2:10-11; I Tim. 

6:14-15). 



WE BELIEVE Salvation is by grace through faith, not of works 

(Eph. 2:8-9). Eternal life is the gift of God through the 

redemption that is in our Savior Yahshua (Jesus Christ) (Rom. 

6:23) who will reward every man according to his works (Rev. 

22:12). 



WE BELIEVE membership in the church of Yahshua or Messiah (Jesus 

Christ) is by Divine election (John 6:44, 65, 15:16; Acts 2:39, 

13:48; Rom. 9:11, 11:7; II Thes. 2:13). God foreknew, chose and 

predestined the Elect from before the foundation of the world 

(Psalm 139:16; Jer. 1:5; Matt. 25:34; Rom. 8:28-30; Eph. 1:4-5; 

II Tim. 1:9; Rev. 13:8) according to His perfect purpose and 

sovereign will (Rom. 9:19-23). Only the called children of God 

can come to the Savior to hear His words and believe; those who 

are not of God, cannot hear his voice (John 8:47, 10:26-27). 



WE BELIEVE Yahshua the Messiah (Jesus the Christ) came to redeem 

(a word meaning purchase back according to the law of kinship) 

only His people Israel (Psalm 130:7-8; Isa. 54:5; Matt. 10:5-6, 

15:24; Gal. 4:4-5) who are His portion and inheritance (Deut. 

32:9). 



WE BELIEVE individual Israelites are destined for judgment (II 

Cor. 5:10; Heb. 9:27) and must believe on the only begotten son 

of God, Yahshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ), in whom only there 

is salvation (Acts 4:12), that they be not condemned (John 3:18; 

Mark 16:16). Each individual Israelite must repent, putting off 

the old corrupt man and become a new creature (Eph. 4:22-24; II 

Cor. 5:17) walking in the newness of life (Rom. 6:4). This 

spiritual rebirth (John 3:3-6; I Peter 1:23) being necessary for 

a personal relationship with our Savior. 



WE BELIEVE in water baptism by immersion according to the 

Scriptures for all true believers; being buried into the death 

of Yahshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ) for the remission of our 

sins and in the likeness of His resurrection being raised up 

into the newness of life (Rom. 6:3-6). Baptism being ordained of 

God a testimony to the New Covenant as circumcision was under 

the Old Covenant (Col 2:11-13). 



WE BELIEVE Yahshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ) to be our only 

High Priest (I Tim. 2:5; Heb. 3:1, 6:20, 7:17, 24-25) and head 

over His body of called-out saints, the Church (Rom. 12:5; I 

Cor. 12:12, 27; Eph. 1:22-23, 4;12, 5:23, 30; Col. 1:18, 24). 

His bride, the wife of the Lamb, is the twelve tribes of the 

children of Israel (Isa. 54:5; Jer. 3:14; Hosea 2:19-20; Rev. 

21:9-12). 



WE BELIEVE God chose unto Himself a special race of people that 

are above all people upon the face of the earth (Deut. 7:6; Amos 

3:2). These children of Abraham through the called-out seedline 

of Isaac and Jacob (Psalm 105:6; Rom. 9:7) were to be a blessing 

to all the families of the earth who bless them and a cursing to 

those that curse them (Gen. 12.3). The descendants of the twelve 

sons of a Jacob, called "Israel", were married to God (Isa. 

54:5), have not been cast away (Rom. 11:1-2), have been given 

the adoption, glory, covenants, law, service of God, and 

promises; are the ones to whom the messiah came (Rom. 9:4-5) 

electing out of all twelve tribes those who inherit the Kingdom 

of God (Rev. 7:4, 21:12). 



WE BELIEVE that the New Covenant was made with the Children of 

Israel, the same people the Old Covenant was made with (Jer. 

31:31-33; Heb. 8:8-10) in fulfillment of the mercy of promised 

our forefathers (Luke 1:72). 



WE BELIEVE the White, Anglo-Saxon, Germanic and kindred people 

to be God's true, literal Children of Israel. Only this race 

fulfills every detail of Biblical Prophecy and World History 

concerning Israel and continues in these latter days to be heirs 

and possessors of the Covenants, Prophecies, Promises and 

Blessings YHVH God made to Israel. This chosen seedline making 

up the "Christian Nations" (Gen. 35:11; Isa. 62:2; Acts 11:26) 

of the earth stands far superior to all other peoples in their 

call as God's servant race (Isa. 41:8, 44:21; Luke 1:54). Only 

these descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad 

(James 1:1; Deut. 4:27; Jer. 31:10; John 11:52) have carried 

God's Word, the Bible, throughout the world (Gen. 28:14; Isa. 

43:10-12, 59:21), have used His Laws in the establishment of 

their civil governments and are the "Christians" opposed by the 

Satanic Anti-Christ forces of this world who do not recognize 

the true and living God (John 5:23, 8:19, 16:2-3). 



WE BELIEVE in an existing being known as the Devil or Satan and 

called the Serpent (Gen. 3:1; Rev. 12:9), who has a 

literal "seed" or posterity in the earth (Gen. 3:15) commonly 

called Jews today (Rev. 2:9; 3:9; Isa. 65:15). These children of 

Satan (John 8:44-47; Matt. 13:38; John 8:23) through Cain (I 

John 2:22, 4:3) who have throughout history always been a curse 

to true Israel, the Children of God, because of a natural enmity 

between the two races (Gen. 3:15), because they do the works of 

their father the Devil (John 8:38-44), and because they please 

not God, and are contrary to all men (I Thes. 2:14-15), though 

they often pose as ministers of righteousness (II Cor. 11:13-

15). The ultimate end of this evil race whose hands bear the 

blood of our Savior (Matt. 27:25) and all the righteous slain 

upon the earth (Matt. 23:35), is Divine judgment (Matt. 13:38-

42, 15:13; Zech. 14:21). 



WE BELIEVE that the Man Adam (a Hebrew word meaning: ruddy, to 

show Blood, flush, turn rosy) is father of the White Race only. 

As a son of God (Luke 3:38), made in His likeness (Gen. 5:1), 

Adam and his descendants, who are also the children of God 

(Psalm 82:6; Hos. 1:10; Rom. 8:16; Gal. 4:6; I John 3:1-2), can 

know YHVH God as their creator. Adamic man is made trichotomous, 

that is, not only of body and soul, but having an implanted 

spirit (Gen. 2:7; I Thes. 5:23; Heb. 4:12) giving him a higher 

form of consciousness and distinguishing him from all the other 

races of the earth (Deut. 7:6, 10:15; Amos 3:2). 



WE BELIEVE that as a chosen race, elected by God (Deut. 7:6, 

10:15; I Peter 2:9), we are not to be partakers of the 

wickedness of this world system (I John 2:15; James 4:4; John 

17/9, 15, 16), but are called to come out and be a separated 

people (II Cor. 6:17; Rev. 18:4; Jer. 51:6; Exodus 33:16; Lev. 

20:24). This includes segregation from all non-white races, who 

are prohibited in God's natural divine order from ruling over 

Israel (Deut. 17:15, 28:13, 32:8; Joel 2:17; Isa. 13:14; Gen. 

1:25-26; Rom. 9:21). Race-mixing is an abomination in the sight 

of Almighty God, a satanic attempt meant to destroy the chosen 

seedline, and is strictly forbidden by His commandments (Exo. 

34:14-16; Num. 25:1-13; I Cor. 10:8/ Rev. 2:14; Deut. 7:3-4; 

Joshua 23:12-13; I Kings 11:1-3; Ezra 9:2, 10-12; 10:10-14; Neh. 

10:28-30, 13;3, 27; Hosea 5;7; Mal. 2:11-12). 



WE BELIEVE sin is transgression of God's Law (I John 3:4; Rom. 

3:31, 7:7) and that all have sinned (Rom. 3;23). Only through 

knowledge of God's Law as given in His Commandments, Statutes 

and Judgments, can we define and know what sin is. We are to 

keep and teach the laws of God (Matt. 5:17-19) on both a 

personal and national basis. 



WE BELIEVE God gave Israel His Laws for their own good (Deut. 

5:33). Theocracy being the only perfect form of government, and 

God's divine Law for governing a nation being far superior to 

man's laws, we are not to add to or diminish from His 

commandments (Deut. 4:1-2). All present world problems are a 

result of disobedience to the Laws of God, which if kept will 

bring blessings and if disregarded will bring cursings (Deut. 

28). 



WE BELIEVE men and women should conduct themselves according to 

the role of their gender in the traditional Christian sense that 

God intended. Homosexuality is an abomination before God and 

should be punished by death (Lev. 18:22, 20:13; Rom. 1:24-28, 

32; I Cor. 6:9). 



WE BELIEVE that the United States of America fulfills the 

prophesied (II Sam. 7:10; Isa. 11:12; Ezek. 36:24) place where 

Christians from all the tribes of Israel would be regathered. It 

is here in this blessed land (Deut. 15.6, 28:11, 33:13-17) that 

God made a small one a strong nation (Isa. 60:22), feeding His 

people with knowledge and understanding through Christian 

pastors (Jer. 3:14-15) who have carried the light of truth and 

blessings unto the nations of the earth (Isa. 49:6, 2:2-3; Gen. 

12:3). North America is the wilderness (Hosea 2:14) to which God 

brought the dispersed seed of israel, the land between tow seas 

(Zech. 9:10), surveyed and divided by rivers (Isa. 18:1-2,7), 

where springs of water and streams break out and the desert 

blossoms as the rose (Isa. 35:1,6-7). 



WE BELIEVE the ultimate destiny of all history will be the 

establishment of the Kingdom of God upon this earth (Psalm 37:9, 

11, 22; Isa. 11:9; Matt. 5:5, 6:10; Rev. 21:2-3) with Yahshua 

our Messiah (Jesus Christ) reigning as King of kings over the 

house of Jacob forever, of this kingdom and dominion there shall 

be no end (Luke 1:32-33; Dan. 2:44, 7:14; Zech. 14:9). When our 

Savior returns to restore righteous government on the earth, 

there will be a day of reckoning when the kingdoms of this world 

become His (Rev. 11:15; Isa. 9:6-7) and all evil shall be 

destroyed (Isa. 13:9; Mal. 4:3; Matt. 13:30, 41-42; II Thes. 

2:8). His elect Saints will be raised immortal at His return (I 

Cor. 15:52-53; I Thes. 4:16; Rev. 20:6) to rule and reign with 

Him as kings and priests (Rom. 8:17; II Tim. 2:12; Rev. 5:10; 

Exodus 19:6; Dan. 7:18, 27).  




From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:25:30 2001

Message:
In this, the 20th century, an age of enlightenment, when all 

subjects can be intelligently examined, there is only one issue 

or subject that remains forbidden fruit. One may discuss 

Communism, sex, Protestantism, Catholicism, Mohammedanism or 

metaphysics freely, but why cannot one discuss the Jew? 



If we wish to find out about the Mormons, we can readily 

purchase on the market "The Book of Mormon," "The Doctrine and 

Covenants" and "The Pearl of Great Price." If we wish to learn 

of the Christian Science faith, we may purchase "Science and 

Health," by Mary Baker Eddy. If we wish to discuss the 'I Am' 

movement, there are many books by Dr. Ballard. If it is 

Mohammedanism we wish to be enlightened on, the "Koran" can be 

bought at nearly every book store. 



There is not one single existing faith that we cannot have the 

complete research on except that of the Jews, and when we seek 

to acquire the many volumes of the Talmud we are always pointed 

to a limited edition or some excerpts, and are forbidden to 

purchase their complete writings. Even in their own writings 

they boldly state that any Gentile should be put to death who 

delves into their teachings. 



A heathen who studies the Torah deserves death for it is 

written, "Moses commanded us a law for an inheritance, it is our 

inheritance, not theirs." Sanhedrin (59a), page 400. 



The second hue and cry that always arises when you wish to 

discuss the Jews is that one must always praise them and never 

be critical of anything they say, write, or do, because God will 

curse us. In other words, it is all right for us to criticize a 

Catholic, a Mormon, a Jehovah Witness, a Christian Scientist, a 

Protestant or any sect upon the face of the earth except a Jew. 



This superstition has been sown so deep in the minds of 

individuals that they fear to raise one single question on this 

subject. The Jew may promote Communism, or operate the liquor 

industries; he may be the writers and distributors of 

pornographic literature; he may operate the prostitution racket; 

but he must never be criticized because there arises the bugaboo 

of "I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse 

thee." 



If one will go back and see who this blessing was applied to, he 

will find that it was an individual blessing 'that was given to 

Abraham and is found in Gen. 12:1-3: 



"Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, 

and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land 

that I will shew thee: and make thy name great; and thou shalt 

be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse 

him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the 

earth be blessed."

Note this: that this is a personal promise given unto Abraham, 

and refers to him in the singular thee and the blessing that he 

is to give to the earth is in his posterity, the Lord Jesus 

Christ - that seed being one, as is also mentioned in the 

term, "the seed of the woman." in Gen.3:15. 

One wonders where modern clergy has propounded the idea that one 

must bless those who curse the very Name of Christ and seek to 

destroy Christianity. One wonders why one must bless those who 

seek to take the Bibles out of the schools and stop the singing 

of Christmas carols. Is it logic that God would place a blessing 

upon those who organize to destroy the teachings of Christ and 

the Church of the Living God? Yet this bugaboo is continually 

flung into the face of anyone who would carry on an honest 

research concerning this subject. 



We are told that only the nations which bless the Jews have 

prospered, but if you will follow history closely you will see 

that this is a lie. The nations that have been destroyed and did 

not prosper were those which forgot God. Blessed is the nation 

whose God is the Lord, Ps. 33:12.Many nations prospered under 

God until the Jews came in, and when they entered with their 

Talmudic doctrine and began to demoralize the land and control 

the wealth, then the nation began to crumble. 



We might note that England has been declining as an empire ever 

since they allowed the influx of Jewish immigrants and let them 

seek places of importance both in their finance and government. 

This is true of the United States since the turn of the century. 



If the blessing should have been upon any nation then it would 

have been upon Napoleon and his army, who forced the people in 

many communities to participate in Jewish holidays and caused 

the erection of synagogues in many of the cities which his army 

captured. Yet Napoleon and his armies were destroyed. 



Surely, according to this, Soyiet Russia should be blessed above 

every other nation upon the face of the earth, for Soviet Russia 

is the only nation that forbids anti-Semitism; and I quote from 

the Daily Worker under the date of December 2, 1938, a paragraph 

in an editorial titled, "Stalin and Anti-Semitism:" 



"In the USSR, anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a 

phenomenon profoundly hostile to the Soviet system. According to 

the laws of the USSR, active anti-semites are punished by death."

The second bugaboo which would throw fear in the hearts of those 

that would seek to enlighten themselves concernmg the overall 

position that the Jews take in this world conspiracy is the 

bugaboo of anti-Semitism. Does anyone stop to ask themselves 

what does this mean? Who is a Semite? If one would read history 

carefully they would find that all races which descend from 

Noah's son Shem, became Semitic people; and this takes in the 

Arabs and many other Mid-Eastern races and the great bulk of the 

Anglo-Saxon world. For years now, organized Jewry has carried on 

a vicious campaign against the Arab nations, and thereby have 

made themselves the real anti-Semites. 

As we know, in general most honest writers discussing the Jewish 

question are not condemning a people nor are they seeking to 

persecute a race or religion, but they are hoping to expose and 

bring to light the Talmudic teachings and practices which at 

their very root are anti-Christ, and have laid the foundation 

for the ungodly doctrine of Communism which is sweeping the 

world today. In the course of this writing I shall seek only to 

condemn the doctrine and those who are a part of the conspiracy, 

such as the pharisaical Talmudic teachers, and political 

Zionism. 



The third bugaboo that arises in any discussion of the Jewish 

problem is that our heritage is Judeo-Christian. Let us remember 

that the New Testament is not the product of the Jews, whose 

faith is built upon the doctrine of the Talmud. The New 

Testament is the product of the spoken words of the Lord Jesus 

Christ, and the divine revelation which was given to His 

apostles. 



The Old Testament was compiled by Holy men of God who were 

Israelites and believers in a monotheistic religion of One God, 

and who looked forward to the coming of the Redeemer of Israel 

and the Saviour of the World. The Bible tells us Holy men of God 

wrote the Bible as they were moved upon by the Spirit of God. 

The Old Testament is the product of God working through His 

servants, the Prophets, and Christianity pre-dates the (Jewish 

faith which came out of the Babylonian captivity;) and which we 

will discuss in great detail further in this writing. 



Let us remember that Jesus said in John 8:56-58: 



"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it and 

was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty 

years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, 

Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, 'I am"

In 1st Cor. 10:4 the apostle Paul sets forth quite plainly the 

presence of Christ in the wilderness journey of Israel, when he 

states: 

"And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of 

that spiritual Rock that -followed them: and that Rock was 

Christ."

We also note in Hebrews 11 that Moses was a member of the 

Christian faith, for we find the following recording beginning 

with the 24th verse: 

"By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called 

the son of Pharaoh's daughter; Choosing rather to suffer 

affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures 

of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater 

riches than the treasure in Egypt: for he had respect unto the 

recompence of the reward."

The apostle John made very clear, that Christ was from the very 

beginning, and even before the foundation of the earth. He said: 

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and 

the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All 

things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made 

that was made." (John 1:1-4)

Then, in the 14th verse, he says: 

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld 

His glory, the glory as of the only'begotten of the Father), 

full of grace and truth."

Jesus said in John 17:4-5: 

"I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work 

which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me 

with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before 

the world was."

This verifies the fact that Christ was with God in the hour that 

the world was made, and the day in which he said in Gen. 1:26: 

"And God said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:"

These few verses are only a part of the abundance of material 

found within the Holy Bible which proves that the Christian 

faith was from the beginning, and is older than the Jewish 

Talmudic religion. Christ is the Rock upon which the Christian 

Church is built. He is the Rock of Ages. He was the Lamb of God 

slain before the foundation of the earth; and His Church and 

teaching are not the products of the Jewish mind. See Rev. 

13:8 "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship Him (ant-

Christ), whose names are not written in the book of life of the 

lamb slain from the foundation of the world." 

Is it not a strange thing then that the very people whom 

preachers are telling us are the creators of the New Testament 

seek to destroy it, for they realize more than anyone else that 

this section of the Holy Bible plainly indicts their teachings 

and identifies them for what they really are. 




From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:27:08 2001

Message:
By: George Lincoln Rockwell



Last week I penetrated into the "South" for the first time in 

more than five years of speaking at colleges.



I spoke at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, North 

Carolina.



It was a shocking - and unpleasant-experience!



Since last September, when I spoke at Harvard, I have been 

having such incredible success speaking all across the country, 

everywhere EXCEPT the South, that I was beginning to believe ALL 

America's college youth was waking up, especially to the nigger 

problem.



I had never penetrated the really "deep" South, for what reasons 

I am still not sure. I have had few invitations from South of 

Virginia - and all of them have been cancelled.



Around the rest of the country, this year has been one of 

immense gratification to me, speaking from Harvard and Brown in 

New England, across the nation through Ohio, Wisconsin, 

Michigan, Iowa, North Dakota, Minnesota, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, 

Washington, California - just about everywhere EXCEPT the "deep 

South." The reaction to my speeches, as those who have heard the 

record or tapes of some of them will know, has been FANTASTIC! 

The violence has almost stopped, even the boos and the hisses 

have died down, and the audience reactions have been SO 

favorable that even the Jew papers in Minneapolis, for instance, 

reported I got "thunderous applause"!!!



Not only that, but the INDIVIDUAL reactions have been 

unbelievable!



Most remarkable of all is the tremendous change which has 

occurred since last summer in the reactions of these college 

kids to NEGROES.



For years, I was plagued by the ignorance of Northerners on the 

subject of niggers - and the same kind of ignorance by many 

Southerners about Jews. They have plenty of niggers in the 

South, so the Southerners know about them. But they have few 

Jews, and the ones they have down South are usually "tame" Jews, 

utterly unlike the wild and hateful Hebrews swarming in the 

streets of the North and West.



At the same time, the Jew-wise "Yankees" in North and West never 

got CLOSE to any "coloreds", and knew almost nothing about them. 

Until the riots began.



Back in those days, whenever I went to jail in the North, the 

cops would privately say "You're doing a great job on the damned 

Jews, but why do you go after the 'colored'?" - as they used to 

call them.



Down South, cops would say "God bless you for the way you're 

fighting the niggers, but what have you got against the Jews?"



This year, all across the Northern part of America, and all over 

the West and South West, I found the people are growing rapidly 

more alert not only to the Jewish problem, which they always 

sensed, but are thoroughly aware - and worried - about 

the "coloreds", because, of course, the "coloreds" have finally 

let the Northerners SEE what they are like, at first hand, in 

the dozens of riots and the endless horror of nigger crime and 

terrorism in the city streets.



The success of my speeches in colleges and universities across 

most of America has been gratifying - and spectacular - 

fantastic! If even the liberal KIDS in these colleges are waking 

up, you can IMAGINE the way the working masses are ready to 

FIGHT!



While I have been speaking sometimes as often as six and seven 

times per week all over the continent, I have naturally presumed 

that when I finally DID get a chance to speak in the real SOUTH -

 it would be the best of all - a real triumph! 



So I approached Wake Forest in North Carolina with my hopes up - 

and my guard down!



When I got there, things seemed SUPER relaxed. Usually, the 

campus where I am to speak is in a state just short of 

explosion - with threats, counter-threats, headlines, etc., etc. 

There are vast crowds outside the hall, hours before the 

address, and the hall is always packed to the point where the 

fire marshall often takes a hand.



But at Wake Forest, there was no crowd outside, when I came to 

the hall. And when I got inside, although they said it was the 

biggest crowd yet, there were several hundred empty seats! 



Believe it or not, I HAVE NOT SEEN AN EMPTY SEAT IN THE LAST 

FOUR YEARS OF SPEAKING.



All of this got me "off balance" sufficiently so that I failed 

to follow my usual routine of insisting on only WRITTEN 

questions (to prevent emotional outbursts and speeches from the 

floor). But I figured that an audience of SOUTHERN kids would be 

wild with enthusiasm when I defended the great White Race and 

the history and traditions of their own grandparents.



What I ran into was something NEW!



In speeches everywhere else, there are always overtones of 

threat and violence, heckling and possibilities of mobs, etc.



All seemed quiet when I began to speak at Wake Forest.



But the minute I opened my mouth, the place busted wide open!



American flags started to wave - HELD BY COONS!



A Jew got up with a black armband and began marching up and down 

the aisles.



Some of the kids acted like a bunch of kooks, whooping and 

cheering this disorder.



An old Jewess rose and began screaming at me in 

unintelligible "English". She got a huge round of cheers and 

applause!



In spite of all this, I managed to take control of the crowd as 

I have been forced to learn to do, and speak for about forty-

five minutes. But I never did succeed in getting a train of 

thought started with the audience. Always, they managed to bust 

up any orderly presentation, and I had to keep using shouts 

and "tricks" to beat the heckling.



There was no applause at the end of my speech, although a few 

kids tried feebly, only to be squelched by their neighbors.



I made the mistake of taking live questions from the audience 

(being somewhat angered and frustrated by now, and hoping to 

beat these hellraisers). That did it!



One huge Negro walked up to the front of the hall just before my 

platform, held up his hands and signalled for silence. He got it!



The hall was hushed, FOR THE FIRST TIME, and I knew from 

experience what came next.



Had that Negro done nothing more than say "abracadabra", he 

would have been drowned in enthusiasm.



He did a masterful job - whether planned or not, I don't know.



I had pointed out in my speech that ghetto Negroes were often in 

good physical shape because they were forced to do menial 

physical work such as garbage men, etc.



This was not to insult Negroes. (Actually, it makes a lot of my 

own people mad when I point this out). But it is part of the 

reason the blacks think they can whip us because they say we've 

gotten soft.



The big black used my statement to make appear I had advocated 

making nothing but garbage men out of all Negroes.



"Maybe all we're good for is garbage men", he said, "but if 

being garbage men is all the contribution America will let us 

make, then we'll make it, we'll BE garbage men!"



The audience rose, first the rabid ones, then more and more, 

until finally the hall was a sea of hysterical cheering, as the 

Negro (who I later learned was the local football hero) led the 

rest of the football team in a "walk-out".



None DARED fail to rise for this mad scene, for fear of being 

branded a "hater", as the arc-lights and TV cameras swept the 

audience.



I did my best to plug on, and succeeded to some degree. I even 

managed to get a good round of applause at the end, myself.



But I was bitterly disappointed to see all this take place in my 

FIRST speech in part of the "deep South"!



I had been winning rabid, liberal "Yankees" over with 

a "Southern" speech in the North all year. Now here I was being 

swamped by a wave of wild, hysterical "nigger-loving" - by 

SOUTHERNERS! Or so I thought!



I spent more than ten more hours at banquets and seminars, 

cocktail parties, and the other usual accompaniments to these 

speeches, and then, after I finally got to bed at 2 a.m., I laid 

awake for two more hours before I reached any kind of conclusion 

as to what it was all about.



At the banquet, the speaker was none other than Dick Gregory. I 

had to sit up at the head table only two seats away from this 

coon comedian-turned-revolutionist. I wouldn't have put up with 

it, except I really wanted to hear this "cat" (as he calls 

everybody) and see how he would affect these kids in North 

Carolina! He did a pretty smooth job on these kids, and I 

learned a lot.



First, he told a series of "supper-club" jokes to "warm up" the 

kids - which he did.



Then he launched into his "You-gotta-give-us-the-country, Baby" 

approach of the black scum now risen to glory among us as a 

result of Yiddish money, Yiddish leadership and Yiddish press-

agentry for these miserable Africans. 



I could hardly believe what I saw there. I watched the racially 

fine faces of the young White boys and girls who were intently 

watching the ape-like face of Gregory. They were hypnotized!



He actually went so far as to BOAST to them that the only way 

they could PROVE they were not full of "racism" and "hate" was 

to give our White women to the Negroes, thus showing that we 

recognize that there's no difference except color.



He went so far as to use the fact of motherhood, and went into a 

physical description of the process of birth, and how you 

couldn't stop delivery of a baby by crossing a woman's legs, 

etc.,etc., ad nauseam - all to "prove" that delivery of our 

women to the blacks was "inevitable" - and standing in the way 

was like crossing the woman's legs, and trying to stop the birth 

of what he said was "Nature's insistence on equality"!!!



He got a STANDING OVATION - just as the earlier black ball 

player had in the audience! 



Once more, I watched the fanatic few rise up applauding wildly 

the moment he was done speaking, then the guilty looks on the 

faces of more and more kids who rose up, until all (except me) 

were standing to give honor to a man who had just announced he 

was going to utterly DESTROY them - women and children and our 

whole RACE!



I had HEARD about this sort of thing happening - just last month 

as I was speaking at one college in Wisconsin, Stokely 

Carmichael was speaking only a few miles away at another. He got 

up and hollered, "BLACK POWER!", and openly announced his 

intention of leading a "burn-baby-burn" ATTACK on White people, 

hollering "Get Whitey!" - and got the same "standing ovation", 

as I had just seen twice in one day, and in the "deep South"!! 

WHY?



In all of history, no people have ever sunk so low they have 

given cheers and ovations to their own executioners. Some people 

have become too rotten to resist, but no people ever before has 

sunk so low as have those of our people who stand and cheer when 

told by arrogant Negroes that the blacks fully intent to WIPE US 

OUT AS A RACE!



The blacks holler, "GET WHITEY!" - and WHITEY CHEERS AND 

APPLAUDS! Surely you, too, must have tried to figure it all out!



Lying there in bed in the Sheraton Motel in Winston-Salem, in 

the fancy room they always get for you on these visits, I think 

I found the answer: GUILT! - Self HATE!



The South has been BEATEN half to death, over a hundred years 

ago, now, and it has its psychological toll.



The approach of the second reconstruction, now under way, has 

acted precisely like the approach of the torturer, after a solid 

year of uninterrupted torture, in a Chinese brainwashing camp.



Sargant, in his magnificent, 'BATTLE FOR THE MIND', describes 

how the mind reverses itself when driven past the point of any 

further "bending" under the stress of physical privation, 

unbearable mental tensions and outright torture. He describes 

how the victim of endless torture, becomes a FANATICAL 

WORSHIPPER of his torturers! Like a whipped dog, he crawls up to 

lick the hand of the brutal master wielding the stick on him.



Before I turned in for the night, I spent several hours in the 

room with assorted interested groups who kept coming and going, 

once they knew my room number. Usually, I run them off because 

of the need to get some rest (I had to fly out next a.m. at 6:30 

for the next speech), but in this case, I desperately wanted to 

learn as much as I could about these Southern kids who seemed so 

crazy about coons, and how they got that way.



First, I learned that MOST of the rabid ones were NOT 

Southerners. The first ones up in the "standing ovation" scenes 

were almost all Jews and similar "liberals" from the NORTH!



When they got into my room, in groups of ten or twenty, and away 

from the mob scenes, I found the Southern kids were mostly O.K.



ALMOST TO A MAN - AND GIRL - THEY APOLOGIZED TO ME FOR WHAT HAD 

HAPPENED IN THE AUDITORIUM THAT AFTERNOON!



Acting as though they, themselves, had not been part of that 

standing ovation scene, they all explained to me that the Negro 

was the local football hero, that the student body was not what 

it seemed, that they were NOT all crazy about coons there, etc., 

etc.



I asked each one of them why he or she thought it all happened, 

and most of them came up with the ANSWER I think is right. They 

used different terms, of course, but the upshot of it all is 

GUILT - self HATE - "embarrassment", etc. 



They felt that the poor coons had been insulted when I stood up 

there and slammed home the list of horrors happening to our 

country and White Race as a result of the Black Revolution! 

Those coon football heroes were their "friends" - courtesy of 

our race-mixing politicians, and they all felt as if I had 

kicked a poor little dog. When we talked later in the room, many 

of them admitted that the negroes were no pitiful little dogs, 

but rather a pack of wild, savage WOLVES - and that I was 

telling the simple truth. Nevertheless, when the black 

ballplayer was up there, they were helpless in the grip of GUILT 

FEELINGS for having participated in a meeting where the TRUTH 

about his race was mentioned!



Then, when the Northerners and liberals, Jews and race-mixers 

rose in the "ovation" scene, none of the rest had the nerve to 

remain seated, not out of love of the Negro - but FEAR! Fear of 

being branded a "bigot", a "hater" and finally a "Nazi".



What does all this mean in terms of the overall battle we must 

fight to survive as a race and regain command of our own Destiny 

as a nation? I think it shows that the battle is going to take 

place MOSTLY in the NON-Southern part of the nation. 



The South has been so thoroughly beaten on and kicked and filled 

with guilt feelings that it is no longer - as an overall 

population group - capable of responding vigorously and 

ferociously. The Klan and various segments of the Southern 

population will still fight and even take risks to stand against 

the black hell closing over us. But today, many of their own 

fellow Southerners are turning, in fear and confusion, against 

the Klan and other fighters.



The AVERAGE Southerner has "had it", just like the average 

German I have met. The Jews and conspirators have consciously 

beaten much of the native fight out of ordinary Southerners and 

ordinary Germans, and left them filled with a crazy, 

suicidal "guilt" feeling for even THINKING about resistance.



The rest of the country hasn't experienced this terrible 

psychological reversal. Whites everywhere are somewhat 

frightened of the smear-words, "bigot", "hater", etc., but not 

to the point where they can be put entirely out of action with 

such Jewish psychological attack. As an example of what I mean, 

take Cicero, in Chicago. There's no "Klan" in Cicero. Instead, 

EVERY citizen of Cicero is ready, willing and EAGER to fight the 

FIRST nigger who tries to move in. 



Remember the full color picture in LIFE last summer of the brave 

kid from Chicago who had been actually bayonetted, standing 

there bleeding, sticking out his chest in magnificent defiance 

of the Guardsman?



While they have been successful in ramming niggers in all over 

the South, I truly believe the whole Federal Government, the 

Army, Navy, Air Force and nuclear bombs won't get one nigger 

into Cicero. They haven't dared even TRY, yet. They might get 

ONE nigger into a house in Cicero, but he'd get right back OUT 

again - either with his black feet going as fast as they could - 

or not moving at all.



In the North, where they are relatively "fresh" in this fight, 

the little KIDS in every White working-class neighborhood are 

full of the most vigorous kind of FIGHT against the black 

invaders of their neighborhoods. The South, after battling and 

LOSING for more than a hundred years, is getting discouraged. 

But let the South take heart!



Remember Thomas Dixon's inspiring novel, "The Klansman", which 

was made into one of the world's all-time great pictures, "The 

Birth of a Nation"?



Captain Forbes, our Los Angeles leader, has a copy of that film 

at the headquarters there, and I was able to see most of it on 

my last visit a few months ago.



For those who may have forgotten, it is the story of how the Ku 

Klux Klan saved the South - and the White Race - from black 

terrorism after the Civil War. 



The Klan did a heroic job. Had I been born one hundred years ago 

I would have been a Klansman. Terrorism WORKED beautifully, a 

hundred years ago. Today, it won't, because the politicians have 

available such total "legal" power to penetrate, capture and 

hound the few brave men who try to stop the black terrorism with 

counter terror.



But in the eighteen sixties and seventies, brave Klansmen were 

able to make a real start on saving the White South from the 

nigger beasts installed by carpetbaggers, scalawags and scum - 

most of them Jews and perverts. 



They still couldn't REALLY save the South, however, because 

there was always the threat of FEDERAL TROOPS. Whenever the Klan 

began to get strong somewhere, heavily armed Federal troops 

would be sent in to protect and back up nigger-rule, and the 

Klan would have to shift operations elsewhere.



Remember the stirring scenes in "Birth of a Nation", when the 

White family in the little cabin is surrounded by nigger troops, 

and niggers have the old men, kids and women pinned down? Only a 

few more rounds of ammunition remain to protect the White women 

from the lust-filled black savages, when suddenly, at the last 

moment, the nigger troops are ROUTED - by FEDERAL TROOPS OF THE 

NORTH WHO HAVE FINALLY SEEN AND UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS THEIR OWN 

WHITE PEOPLE THEY WERE TURNING OVER TO THE BLACKS!



Today, the same thing is happening right before our eyes.



The South has been under siege year after year, for a CENTURY!



The defenses are crumbling everywhere in the South. Many good 

Southerners are losing heart, as they see one barrier after 

another fall before the terrible power of the Federal 

politicians.



"It's GOT to come" they rationalize. "We might as well try to 

accept it with a good grace and at least make it peaceful and 

prevent any more bloodshed."



Nobody can blame these good people too savagely for saying that 

today, any more than I can blame the Germans who put up THEIR 

fight for the White Race only to have fellow White Men (like me) 

come, at the behest of the Jews, and murder and torture them by 

the millions.



Last-minute rescue came in "Birth of a Nation" from White 

Federal troops who had been on the Jew-nigger Federal side, and 

switched when they understood, and finally stood shoulder-to-

shoulder with their White brothers and sisters of the South 

against nigger terror - and it STOPPED.



Today, the SAME THING IS HAPPENING!



White Men and Women of the South, I can tell you surely and 

proudly, that my fellow "Yankees" are finally WAKING UP, like 

the Federal White troops in "Birth of a Nation", and are 

beginning to fight for you - for ALL of us! And when the White 

Men, North and South, have finally had ENOUGH of these arrogant 

niggers and their even more arrogant and vicious Jew leaders, we 

will put an END to the black horror and insanity, and the Jew 

Communist treason which spawned it in one hell of a hurry!



And this time, we will never again let them divide us against 

each other! 



The Jews and race-mixing fanatics got the North hating the 

South, the South hating the North, so they could plunder and 

dominate both, as they have. 



The moment White troops in the South refused to keep their White 

Southern brothers under nigger terrorism, the terrorism ended, 

and the carpetbaggers, scalawags and scum were DRIVEN OUT.



This time, the moment White men in all of the North and West are 

sufficiently disgusted with being used to impose nigger terror 

not only on the South, but the whole nation, the terror will 

STOP, and the nightmare army of black and white scum, led by the 

Jews will be seen and heard with their chants and insults no 

more!



But the re-unification of the White Race will not only be 

national, local and temporary, this time.



This time, there at last exists in this world an organization 

not dedicated to saving just one PART of the White Race - as the 

Klan tried and succeeded for a time in saving the South, and the 

German Nazis tried and succeeded for a while in saving Germany - 

THIS TIME, the American Nazi Party and the World Union of 

National Socialists, of which the American Nazi Party is a part, 

will see to it that the White Race never again lays itself open 

to brainwashing and defeat by DIVIDING ITSELF and by being 

taught to HATE ITSELF and PARTS OF ITSELF - the way Yankees 

and "rebels" were taught to hate each other, and Americans 

and "Nazis" were taught to hate each other. 



This time we'll hate, alright - but we'll hate the ENEMY - the 

vicious gang of colored scum attackers and Jewish-Communist 

traitors - rather than one part of our own people hating another 

part for the benefit of the Jews and their army of SCUM!



And the reason we'll "hate" and do such a bang-up job of it, is 

not that we are some kind of a monstrous "haters", "bigots", 

etc., but that WE LOVE OUR PEOPLE - the White Race of people 

given by the Great Spirit to civilize and dominate this earth 

and prevent it from becoming the filthy, crazy jungle of 

darkness and bloodshed which now threatens. 



Last week, in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, I had to watch the 

results of a hundred years of Jewish brainwashing on our beloved 

South. White kids, taught to hate "Yankees" first, "Nazis", and 

finally THEMSELVES, because of all the propaganda against the 

FACT that WHITES ARE, INDEED, A "MASTER RACE". I watched them 

stand up and give an ovation to an arrogant nigger who boasted 

he would take our lovely White girls for his nigger mobs! 



Thank God, before this process can proceed much further, the 

White Men of the North will come "galloping" to the rescue of 

their hard-pressed Southern brothers and sisters and smash 

ANYbody or ANYthing which threatens ANY White man or woman, 

ANYWHERE whether he or she be called a "rebel", a "Yankee", 

a "Nazi", a "Christian", a "Britisher", a "Catholic" or 
even 

a "Russian". 



We are living in the last days of the Great White Race, and 

cannot afford self-hate or division, regardless of the 

propaganda they pour on us as the reason. 



WHITE MAN! If you are WHITE - you are my BROTHER!



I care not what religion, club, area or class you come from, nor 

what bit of colored cloth you wave as a flag. WE are ALL under 

deadly attack by colored hordes which outnumber us more than 

seven to one, led by a filthy Jewish, Communist conspiracy!



Stand with me and SMASH the enemy first, TOGETHER!



Then, if you want to argue politics, economics, sociology, 

religion, nationality or other things with me, you can. I will 

even fight you, if I must.



But, FIRST, White Man, let us stand TOGETHER to secure the 

survival of your people and my people, for they are one and the 

same - they are our beloved, miraculous, wonderful, blessed and 

MASTERFUL WHITE RACE


From: The One
To: Anyone in a secular mode
Subject: I am surrounded by the problem, religion
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:27:17 2001

Message:
LOOKS LIKE ALL THE RELIGIOUS FANATICS ARE ON THEIR OVERNIGHT 

PILGRIMAGE ACCROSS THE INTERNET...YES MUJIAMIN, THERE IS NEWS.

BIN LADEN WAS CAPTURED ON A ROAD NEAR KABUL, APPARENTLY HE 

TRYING TO FUCK SOME GOATS WHEN HE WAS CAPTURED BY BRITISH S.A.S. 

COMMANDOS, BIN-LADEN IS CURRENTLY BEING FLOWN TO DISNEY WORLD 

WHERE HE WILL BITCH-SLAPPED BY MICKEY MOUSE ON EVERY SINGLE 

MORNING NEWS SHOW, AFTER THAT HE WILL BE FLOWN TO TEXAS WHERE HE 

WILL BE FORCED TO EAT PORK RIBS, THEN HE WILL BE FLOWN TO SAN 

FRANCISCO WHERE HE WILL PERFORM SEXUAL FAVORS ON THE GAY 

POPULATION OF THE BAY AREA. HE WILL THEN BE STRIPPED, BEATEN BY 

HUNDREDS OF WOMEN THAT HAVE PMS REAL BAD, THEN HE WILL BE 

UNCEREMONIOUSLY CRUCIFIED IN A DUMP OUTSIDE KANSAS CITY.

HIS CORPSE WILL BE SENT TO A PORK SLAUGHTERHOUSE IN SIOUX CITY, 

IOWA. FROM THERE HIS PARTS WILL BE FED TO RATS EVERYWHERE IN THE 

USA. 


From: Jake Blues
To: Elwood Blues
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:42:35 2001

Message:
I HATE ILLINOIS NAZIS

From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:43:27 2001

Message:
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To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:45:30 2001

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From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:46:48 2001

Message:
Jake Blues no matter how you cut it ,we are all one, It's now us 

against them..  WHITE POWER

From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 01:46:48 2001

Message:
Jake Blues no matter how you cut it ,we are all one, It's now us 

against them..  WHITE POWER

From: A Proud American
To: Frenchmen
Subject: BIN LADEN
Date: Sun Sep 30 17:26:34 2001

Message:
Bin Laden was backed by America during the Soviet Invasion. HE 

turned on America during the cold war. Mullah omar has never 

been seen and his picutures never been taken. He may not even 

exist.  Anyhow It's sad to know that a french men knows his  

history better than some of my fellow americans on this site. I 

tell you some of these people didn't know where Afghanistan was 

if you were to ask them about a 6 month ago.  This site is 

terrible because a lot of these white supermacisit people are on 

this message board.  THe KKK and Timothy Mc Vay are fanatic 

Christians who do the same things as the Bin laden and the 

fantatic muslims do. Excuse my language but they preach the same 

shit. . These two groups use religion for an excuse to murder 

when actually religion is a tool they use to get supporters to 

fight for their ignorant causes.  AS you can tell the klans men 

on this website are revealing  themselves and they think that 

they are the less of two evils .  A lot of these KKK people on 

this site say tell the middle easterns, blacks,jews , mexicans 

and  etc to go back from where they came from. SOme one should 

tell them LEARN YOUR HISTORY THIS LAND WAS THE NATIVE AMERICANs 

AND THAT IF THEY HAVE PROBLEM THEY SHOULD GO BACK FROM WHERE 

THey came from. SOrRY FOR PREACHY to the choir with you but I am 

seek of these ignorant brian washed individuals fighting for 

STUPID CAUSES!

From: America
To: The Weird Dudes who don't take their medicine
Subject: Unknnown, but look above
Date: Mon Oct 1 02:28:51 2001

Message:
What's WHITE POWER mean? 



I tried to follow what you had to say, but it was not quite 

together.  I live in the South.  I have lived in Georgia, 

Louisiana, Virginia, and North Carolina.  I know people of every 

color and every religion.  I don't know about you, but as for me 

and my friends, we were brought up to believe there is one race 

and it's called human.   



How old are you anyway? Have you checked out the AARP site 

maybe?  Good Luck in taking care of your problems.  Now is the 

time for Americans to stick together.  I know that if you are an 

American, you'll figure it out.


From: Brutalys
To: Afghanistan
Subject: Jesus's gonna kick Allah's ass!!!
Date: Mon Oct 1 02:47:26 2001

Message:
Jihad will be very exciting when U.S. Air Force will send a 

complete armada of destructive weapon upon your head. Do you 

really think you can rule the world with Allah? Allah is just a 

piece of shit. At the end, everybody will see how you all can 

be so small and useless, and everybody will sing, in one 

voice, "God Bless Occident".

From: The One
To: Whitey
Subject: White Powder
Date: Mon Oct 1 03:05:29 2001

Message:
DIDN'T THE KLU KLUX KLOWNS INVENT TERRORISM? THOUGHT

I READ THAT SOMEWHERE WHEN I WAS STUCK IN ALABAMA, I THINK THEY 

RAN AROUND IN WHITE SHEETS AND SCARED GOATS AND FARM ANIMALS IN 

THE NIGHT, THEY WERE REALLY BORED SO THEY LIT FIRES.

 I AM SURE BIN-PIGFUCKER WILL BRING THIS FACT UP AT HIS 

INTERNATIONAL TRIAL AND THEN WE'LL ALL BE HYPOCRITES.

I CLAIM DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY TO EVERYTHING ON THIS BOARD SO SPARE 

ME THE RELIGIOUS JUDGEMENT. WHITE POWDER MAKES YA TEETH WHITE!

JESUS BEAT UP ALLAH...HOW FREEKING SILLY, IF THERE IS A HELL,

I HOPE FRANK SINATRA IS KICKING THE SHIT OUT OF THE AYATOLLAH 

KHOMENI (SHOVE THAT SPELL CHECKER UP YER ASS I DONT CARE).

GOD BLESS ALABAMA!




From: The One
To: The Med Nurse
Subject: Diagnosis
Date: Mon Oct 1 03:16:20 2001

Message:
I TOOK MY MEDS...

From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 03:18:22 2001

Message:
Jake Blues was more black than you are white, and he was white, 

until the drugs, then he turned blue

From: An American
To: White Power
Subject: White Power
Date: Mon Oct 1 03:25:39 2001

Message:
What the hell are you talking about?  We're Americans.   What 

the hell are you?  White power ROTFLMAO...continue picking your 

nose, but don't do it in front of the children.  And, go back to 

where ever you came from.  



We are Americans and we don't want you here.




From: Everyone
To: America
Subject: re: response to Peace Rally
Date: Mon Oct 1 03:09:01 2001

Message:
1. Haven t been to any peace rallies since the sixties if 

there were any peace rallies     

 last month, (and there probably were) I sure didn t know about 

them; my time was spent working 50-60 hours/week, and then being 

a mother to my child.



Actually, it s not a copout.  Realistically, it s not something 

that I can (or want) to do right now.  I ll find another way to 

make my contribution.



2. Agreed.  Yet will war get to the roots of what 

happened?  War and retaliation do not prevent future violence.  

The ugly reality of war isn t something we should jump into 

until all other options are exhausted.  Revenge shouldn t guide 

our foreign policy.  



3. Good point.  However, we do have training camps for 

jihad here in America, America.  Check out  Sakina Security 

Services .



4. Actually, I have to admire the fact that GW hasn t 

indiscriminately sent in the troops with guns blazing.  I ll 

even confess to some admiration for the guy.  (Not something I 

would have said last November.)  At what point do we stop 

shipping arms to rebels?  Saddam Hussein and the Taliban were at 

one point supported militarily by us.  Can we sell death and 

destruction to every country and not have it come back to us? 



5. I did say bin Laden and his troupe and yes, the older 

and less idealistic I get, the more I think that there are 

things beyond redemption.  Agreed.



6. Regarding being a pawn to Corporate America:  I meant as 

far as the military and the wealthy (i.e. oil companies) go hand 

in hand; not my lack of personal monetary wealth.



7. a.  Good point   b.  Didn t know that 



8. Well said.  Yes, I have already visited that site and 

found it atrocious; (not the site, the conditions faced by women 

in Afghanistan) and no, I am not planning on attending any 

rallies at this point in time.  I, too, am opposed to terrorism.



You write well.


From: Everyman
To: Nameless 'white power'
Subject: racism
Date: Mon Oct 1 04:31:34 2001

Message:
Jesus was born in the Middle East...do you REALLY think He was 

WHITE?

From: jai
To: haja41@hotmail.com
Subject: Islam get victory
Date: Mon Oct 1 04:45:07 2001

Message:
Pray for Islam

From: A Frenchman
To: A proud American
Subject: KKK
Date: Mon Oct 1 04:52:55 2001

Message:
Isn't the KKK a bunch of rednecks that believe only white 

protestant should be living in America and who have been 

persecuting black people in the southern States? I'm catholic 

and in my bible, Christ tells us to love our ennemies. There 

will always be fanatic people who will use religion as a pretext 

to serve their narrow-minded radical political agenda. Exemple: 

the Inquisition, Scientology, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Quaida, KKK 

etc...

From: Frenchman
To: Rockwell
Subject: You contradict yourself
Date: Mon Oct 1 05:04:33 2001

Message:
Dou you know that most Jews are white, are they then your 

brothers? You do realize that Jesus Christ was a Jew, don't you? 

Dou you know that the Aryans are from Persia, current Iran? How 

many blue-eyed blond you think you'll find there? Why don't you 

go over there, in Iran, among your Aryan brothers, they probably 

have a position for you in their Hezbollah-Jihad against Israel. 

They'll probably send you running on mine fields, telling you 

there's no greater death than dying for the cause...

From: The One
To: Everyone
Date: Mon Oct 1 05:26:36 2001

Message:
You work too many hours

From: Jihad Joe
To: Taliban
Date: Mon Oct 1 05:31:03 2001

Message:
JUST HAND OVER THAT ASSWIPE TO THE AMERICANS SO WE CAN RESUME 

BEATING OUR WOMEN AND DESTROYING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN PEACE.

SHEEESH. 

From: Everyone
To: The One
Date: Mon Oct 1 05:55:46 2001

Message:
Not anymore...unfortunately I was laid off & have now joined the 

ranks of the unemployed...

From: Ashraf
To: All Americans and the World at Large
Subject: A Terrorist's Point of View
Date: Mon Oct 1 05:57:54 2001

Message:
ashraf@UAEDesertSafari.com



The American People & the world at large



A Terrorist s Opinion



I am a Muslim who prays 5 times a day, I'm a SUDANESE, born in 

LIBYA, and residing in the UAE. So basically, I am the closest 

you will ever get a religious, MUSLIM TERRORIST, as per the 

classification of the average American citizen. So what I have 

to say could be of interest to you 



This is how it is. 



First and foremost, my heart sincerely goes out to the whole 

world, starting with the American People, for the grief and 

misery that have come upon them, as a result of the WTC 

incidents. 

What happened is not acceptable to anyone who believes in God, 

be him a Muslim or a Christian. As to the  Palestinian-killing  

Jews, anyone in their right mind should know what they are all 

about.



Islam??? Here is a short note about the meeting point between 

killing and Islam.



Islam permits killings, when in time of war, subject to the 

following unbreachable conditions:

1. Self Defense, when one's life is in clear danger, provided 

that one s retaliation is adequately proportional to the danger 

in hand i.e. not a bullet for a punch or a kick 

2. During a war, but the following are to be excluded at all 

costs: 

a. Women

b. Children

c. The elderly

d. A civilian, minding his own business, even if he is from 

opposing nation



In other words, fight only those fighting you, with their 

weapons drawn in your face.



These Islamic principles are taught to each and every Muslim, 

from the age of 5. Which one of these Islamic directives would 

you disagree with ? 



To cut a long story short:

1. Allah, Islam and Muslims, or diper-heads, unfortunately 

enough,  as some of you wish to call us, , do not approve of 

killing civilians, women, children, nor the elderly.

2. If Usama Bin Laden had actually planned or master-minded 

this operation, any proper Muslim would ensure that he is to be 

put on Trial, no doubt, and the Islamic sentence for such an 

act, is death

3. For a trial to be held, concrete evidence must be 

submitted

4. Any action by a nation, against any civilian, be him 

Muslim, Christian or otherwise, residing in a Muslim nation, 

Islamically results in the declaration of a wholly war against 

such nation ie Jihad. This is regarded as an act of self-defense.



No Muslim has the right to take the life of any human being, 

unless in a state of war, and subject to the ethical conditions 

of Islamic wars above.



No Muslim disagrees with the above, so the question now is .  Do 

you still believe Islam to be a religion of violence ? 



Islam is a religion of Respect and Dignity. 



If you think otherwise, you need to read more, and not judge 

Islam by the media in your country, because unfortunately, the 

Jews control that. Has a justification been given about the 

4,000 Israelis who didn t Turn up for work on the 11th of 

September ? 



Americans .. Wake up and Think for yourselves .!!



Again, I repeat, I am a true Muslim, and I am proud of my 

Religion and if Usama has done, he should be sentenced to death, 

according to Islam...



These are the facts, so does anyone out there still think that 

Islam, Muslims and Allah equal Terrorism...? 



Do you still think that I am a Terrorist, just because I am a 

Sudanese, Muslim, Arab, born in Libya, and living in the UAE?



Think Fairly...



Peace...

From: ONION
To: LIVE AND ONLINE
Subject: Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell
Date: Mon Oct 1 06:55:47 2001

Message:
Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell

JAHANNEM, OUTER DARKNESS The hijackers who carried out the Sept. 

11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon expressed 

confusion and surprise Monday to find themselves in the lowest 

plane of Na'ar, Islam's Hell.

"I was promised I would spend eternity in Paradise, being fed 

honeyed cakes by 67 virgins in a tree-lined garden, if only I 

would fly the airplane into one of the Twin Towers," said 

Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 

11, between attempts to vomit up the wasps, hornets, and live 

coals infesting his stomach. "But instead, I am fed the boiling 

feces of traitors by malicious, laughing Ifrit. Is this to be my 

reward for destroying the enemies of my faith?"



The rest of Atta's words turned to raw-throated shrieks, as a 

tusked, asp-tongued demon burst his eyeballs and drank the fluid 

that ran down his face.

According to Hell sources, the 19 eternally damned terrorists 

have struggled to understand why they have been subjected to 

soul-withering, infernal torture ever since their Sept. 11 

arrival.

"There was a tumultuous conflagration of burning steel and fuel 

at our gates, and from it stepped forth these hijackers, the 

blessed name of the Lord already turning to molten brass on 

their accursed lips," said Iblis The Thrice-Damned, the 

cacodemon charged with conscripting new arrivals into the ranks 

of the forgotten. "Indeed, I do not know what they were 

expecting, but they certainly didn't seem prepared to be 

skewered from eye socket to bunghole and then placed on a spit 

so that their flesh could be roasted by the searing gale of 

flatus which issues forth from the haunches of Asmoday."

"Which is strange when you consider the evil with which they 

ended their lives and those of so many others," added Iblis, 

absentmindedly twisting the limbs of hijacker Abdul Aziz Alomari 

into unspeakably obscene shapes.

"I was told that these Americans were enemies of the one true 

religion, and that Heaven would be my reward for my noble 

sacrifice," said Alomari, moments before his jaw was sheared 

away by faceless homunculi. "But now I am forced to suckle from 

the 16 poisoned leathern teats of Gophahmet, Whore of Betrayal, 

until I burst from an unwholesome engorgement of curdled bile. 

This must be some sort of terrible mistake."

Exacerbating the terrorists' tortures, which include being 

hollowed out and used as prophylactics by thorn-cocked Gulbuth 

The Rampant, is the fact that they will be forced to endure such 

suffering in sight of the Paradise they were expecting.

"It might actually be the most painful thing we can do, to show 

these murderers the untold pleasures that would have awaited 

them in Paradise, if only they had lived pious lives," said 

Praxitas, Duke of Those Willingly Led Astray. "I mean, it's 

tough enough being forced through a wire screen by the callused 

palms of Halcorym and then having your entrails wound onto a 

stick and fed to the toothless, foul-breathed swine of Gehenna. 

But to endure that while watching the righteous drink from a 

river of wine? That can't be fun."

Underworld officials said they have not yet decided on a 

permanent punishment for the terrorists.

"Eventually, we'll settle on an eternal and unending task for 

them," said Lord Androalphus, High Praetor of 

Excruciations. "But for now, everyone down here wants a crack at 

them. The legions of fang-wombed hags will take their pleasure 

on their shattered carcasses for most of this afternoon. 

Tomorrow, their flesh will be melted from their bones like wax 

in the burning embrace of the Mother of Cowards. The day after 

that, they'll be sodomized by the Fallen and their bowels 

shredded by a demonic ejaculate of burning sand. Then, on 

Sunday, Satan gets them all day. I can't even imagine what he's 

got cooked up for them."


From: Ashraf
To: All Americans and the World at Large
Subject: A Terrorist's Point of View
Date: Mon Oct 1 08:46:33 2001

Message:
ashraf@UAEDesertSafari.com



The American People & the world at large



A Terrorist s Opinion



I am a Muslim who prays 5 times a day, I'm a SUDANESE, born in 

LIBYA, and residing in the UAE. So basically, I am the closest 

you will ever get a religious, MUSLIM TERRORIST, as per the 

classification of the average American citizen. So what I have 

to say could be of interest to you 



This is how it is. 



First and foremost, my heart sincerely goes out to the whole 

world, starting with the American People, for the grief and 

misery that have come upon them, as a result of the WTC 

incidents. 

What happened is not acceptable to anyone who believes in God, 

be him a Muslim or a Christian. As to the  Palestinian-killing  

Jews, anyone in their right mind should know what they are all 

about.



Islam??? Here is a short note about the meeting point between 

killing and Islam.



Islam permits killings, when in time of war, subject to the 

following unbreachable conditions:

1. Self Defense, when one's life is in clear danger, provided 

that one s retaliation is adequately proportional to the danger 

in hand i.e. not a bullet for a punch or a kick 

2. During a war, but the following are to be excluded at all 

costs: 

a. Women

b. Children

c. The elderly

d. A civilian, minding his own business, even if he is from 

opposing nation



In other words, fight only those fighting you, with their 

weapons drawn in your face.



These Islamic principles are taught to each and every Muslim, 

from the age of 5. Which one of these Islamic directives would 

you disagree with ? 



To cut a long story short:

1. Allah, Islam and Muslims, or diper-heads, unfortunately 

enough,  as some of you wish to call us, , do not approve of 

killing civilians, women, children, nor the elderly.

2. If Usama Bin Laden had actually planned or master-minded 

this operation, any proper Muslim would ensure that he is to be 

put on Trial, no doubt, and the Islamic sentence for such an 

act, is death

3. For a trial to be held, concrete evidence must be 

submitted

4. Any action by a nation, against any civilian, be him 

Muslim, Christian or otherwise, residing in a Muslim nation, 

Islamically results in the declaration of a wholly war against 

such nation ie Jihad. This is regarded as an act of self-defense.



No Muslim has the right to take the life of any human being, 

unless in a state of war, and subject to the ethical conditions 

of Islamic wars above.



No Muslim disagrees with the above, so the question now is .  Do 

you still believe Islam to be a religion of violence ? 



Islam is a religion of Respect and Dignity. 



If you think otherwise, you need to read more, and not judge 

Islam by the media in your country, because unfortunately, the 

Jews control that. Has a justification been given about the 

4,000 Israelis who didn t Turn up for work on the 11th of 

September ? 



Americans .. Wake up and Think for yourselves .!!



Again, I repeat, I am a true Muslim, and I am proud of my 

Religion and if Usama has done, he should be sentenced to death, 

according to Islam...



These are the facts, so does anyone out there still think that 

Islam, Muslims and Allah equal Terrorism...? 



Do you still think that I am a Terrorist, just because I am a 

Sudanese, Muslim, Arab, born in Libya, and living in the UAE?



Think Fairly...



Peace...

From: from ravon
To: the world
Subject: close america
Date: Mon Oct 1 09:38:10 2001

Message:
hay all would the world be a better place if america closed 

it's borders? another thought keep all the food we send to other 

countries here and give it to the starving in this country, a 

child died in detroit last week because the hospital he was 

brought to could save him for starving to death, he had not 

eaten in 8 days. his poor mom didn't live much longer.

  america is far from perfact. tell me one country that is? i 

bet i already know the answer to that. my point is that we in 

the U.S. are like the people in Afghan, we don't want outsiders 

here. we want to live our lives as we see fit. not as the rest 

of the world wants us to. it is not my idea to force my religon 

on anyone who doesn't believe as i do. i am not going to kill 

people who don't look as i do or speek the same language i do.

thats why i am an american. i can believe in any god i chose , 

speek any language i desire  complain when things don't go the 

way i think they should. we the american people are from all the 

countries of the world. for some reason the world has forgoten 

that but the american people not the goverment is feeding the 

world and tring to make it (the world ) a better place to live.

so i am a little nieve on some points sue me. i bleave the U.S.  

is the greatest country in the world. i have been to most of the 

others ansd seen how they live and treat others. trust me you 

would rather be here with all our crime and drug problems and 

starving people than in afgan or china,russia. 



                    AMERICA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT

                    

From: luke779865@hotmail.com
To: All
Subject: Our strength
Date: Mon Oct 1 11:16:15 2001

Message:
Every new statement from Omar and his thugs confirms his real

fear. Our strength lies in the fact that we can wait like this

and make them squirm.  We will act when and how we want to.  If

he thinks we lack courage, why is he in hiding, just like Bin

Laden.  I can assure the world that our response will be measured

and just, only America has the strength to respond in this

manner.  Other countries would act irrationally and cause

extensive civilian casualties.  The Afgani people will be much

better off after all of this, finally.



To all of you out there expressing views, even the ones that are

a bit extreme...you warm my heart and re-inforce my belief in

America.  Only because of America do you have that freedom.



God Bless

From: Proud American
To: Jealous Arabs
Subject: Terrorists WILL be DEFEATED !
Date: Mon Oct 1 12:00:10 2001

Message:
It may take months and more than likely years but it will be 

done.  You terrorists will be DESTROYED.  Unfortunately,  

innocent people will also be killed.  This is the " Land of the 

Free and the Home of the Brave ".  Don't ever forget that ! You 

sick and utterly disgusting people. 

From:
To:
Date: Mon Oct 1 12:16:53 2001

Message:
First and foremost White is Right if your black you must step 

back if your brown you may stick around, remember people of 

color are not supreme as White People. 

From: This Person
To: anyone who cares
Subject: Newspaper article
Date: Mon Oct 1 20:13:37 2001

Message:
Check this site out:  http://www.afghan-web.com/aop/today.html
Read the article titled "Afghan Taliban remain defiant as U.S 
wrath grows". It's quite interesting.

From: Spy
To: the KKK guy above
Subject: Shut the fuck up !!!
Date: Mon Oct 1 19:57:30 2001

Message:
Shut the fuck up !!! Go outside and practice torching yourself 
while hanging by the neck from your backyard dogwood tree.

From: A White American
To: The KKK
Subject: Hmmm...
Date: Mon Oct 1 20:19:02 2001

Message:
Hey! Don't you all run around in sheets too?

Mabey we should ship all you assholes to those putzes in 
Afghanistan so you can teach them how to keep those rags nice 
and sparkling clean.  Then you could play the " I Can Out- Hate 
You" game.  Just remember to bring the beer; they'll supply all 
the livestock, you know, for the after-game "entertainment" Have 
fun, morons!

I will be watching Michael Jordan's comeback to the NBA.

America.... Love it or Leave it.




From: America
To: Osama and his gang of Losers
Subject: POW
Date: Mon Oct 1 20:44:13 2001

Message:
The WORLD will REJOICE at your DEATH.  There is no cave, no hole 
in the ground to hide.  There is no escape.  You are a walking 
corpse, you and those who follow and obey you.

Are you nervous? GOOD!  Are you uncertain?  GOOD!  Are you ready 
to die, you slithering, blood thirsty son of a bitch?  What was 
that?  No?

TOO LATE, ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  POWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

Can you say "Osama Bin - BURGER?"   GOOD!!!!!!  


From: An Educated American
To: Many people on this page
Subject: Think before you speak
Date: Mon Oct 1 21:13:30 2001

Message:
Do you know how ridiculous some of you people look?  It's 
absolutely ridiculous how some of you feel it neccessary to call 
out certain ethnicities, religious groups, and nationalities. We 
have to remember that these tradgedies are results of terrorism, 
not of any one ethnicity and of that.  We seem to forget that 
there are people out there who are not from the middle east that 
are terrorists. It is unfortunate that the media portrays many 
more negative things than positive things. It is also 
unfortunate that the media portrays the minority of people who 
have a tendancy to make people angry. Many of you should really 
think about what you write before you write it. If you don't, 
you end up sounding like an ignorant person who has no idea what 
they're talking about.  There are a few people on this page who 
seem to be in that minority that make people angry.  Think 
before you speak.

From: Spy
To: Ashraf
Subject: ?????
Date: Mon Oct 1 21:21:49 2001

Message:
Are you a terrorist or not ? If so, then you are one of the 
enemy.
 Ossama bin Laden wants and has killed many 
Americans,Britts,Muslims and so forth. He has freely 
admitted to it. He will be dealt with (by us) in a military way 
as he has already declared war on us.
 Americas will not stand for some monky ass court 
proceedings !
 So once again, I ask you----are you a terrorist ? 

From: an american
To: all
Subject: proud to be an american
Date: Mon Oct 1 21:50:14 2001

Message:
united we will stand

From: yo' mamma
To: the educated "american" above me
Subject: yo'mamma
Date: Mon Oct 1 21:39:50 2001

Message:
hey educated "american"

this is a venting post!

          get off your high horse

                     YO'MAMMA

From: osama "bin"* laden *(Binnie)
To: everybody enjoying my picture on the telly
Date: Mon Oct 1 22:29:04 2001

Message:
hey, just chillin in my dark smelly cave fondling little boys, 
and i wanna give  a big shout-out to my favorite pedophile 
micheal jackson....wassup? yo? yo!

c'mon already and make with the cruise missles....my whole fuckin 
clan of stank rag wearin refugee relatives is here, an we need a 
couple of holes in the ground for those fuckers to sleep.
we don't even have a tractor to harvest crops or rebuild our 
bombed out shitholes....all we got here is some raunchy 
camels....those bastards can spit!

From: Firestone Tires Inc.
To: Taliban
Subject: Slightly used tires:
Date: Mon Oct 1 23:32:16 2001

Message:
We have some really good deals on some slightly used 
SUV tires. Interested?

From: Taliban
To: Firestone
Date: Mon Oct 1 23:55:55 2001

Message:
We think not that we will have many vehices to mount them 
on in next few days.

From: guyuattacked
To: ufucker
Subject: look out!
Date: Tue Oct 2 00:31:19 2001

Message:
Look out,  some shit is hitting the fan above you.  Thanks for 
harbouring terrorists you stupid MF!


From: Ken Pearce
To: Taliban
Subject: Too dumb to figure????
Date: Tue Oct 2 00:27:37 2001

Message:
Day-o, day-ay-ay-o 
Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!
Day, he say day, he say day, he say day,
He say day, he say day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!

Work all night loadin' me gun,
Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!
Stack me ammo till thee morning come, 
Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!

Come mister Taliban, tali me Bin Ladin,
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!
Come mister Taliban, tali me Bin Ladin,
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!

Six bomb, seven bomb, eight bomb, boom!
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!
Six bomb, seven bomb, eight bomb, boom!
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!
 
Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!
Day, he say day, he say day, he say day,
He say day, he say day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!

An ugly bunch of black Afgani,
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!
Hide the deadly black Bin Ladin,
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!

Six bomb, seven bomb, eight bomb, boom!
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!
Six bomb, seven bomb, eight bomb, boom!
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!


Come mister Taliban, tali me Bin Ladin,
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!
Come mister Taliban, tali me Bin Ladin,
Daylight come and the bombs'll go boom!

Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!
Day, he say day, he say day, he say day,
He say day, he say day-ay-ay-o
Daylight come an' the bombs'll go boom!

kpearce@rohan.sdsu.edu......


From: guyuattacked
To: ufucker
Subject: look out!
Date: Tue Oct 2 00:31:19 2001

Message:
Look out,  some shit is hitting the fan above you.  Thanks for 
harbouring terrorists you stupid MF!


From: guyuattacked
To: ufucker
Subject: look out!
Date: Tue Oct 2 00:31:19 2001

Message:
Look out,  some shit is hitting the fan above you.  Thanks for 
harbouring terrorists you stupid MF!


From: Cool
To: U.S. THE TERRORIST
Subject: ENOUGH
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:32:20 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: JOHN
To: Everyone
Subject: Think & think again
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:39:20 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: Good Thinker
To: Everyone
Subject: Think & think again
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:43:20 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: Good Thinker
To: Everyone
Subject: Think & think again
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:46:09 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: Cool
To: Everyone
Subject: Think & think again
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:47:44 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: Cool
To: U.S. THE TERRORIST
Subject: Think & think again
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:50:49 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: Pasquelli
To: Is there any body out there?
Subject: Afganistan
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:35:54 2001

Message:
Seahawks fans need to be patient with Holmgren and his offence. 
He fired half his team.

From: Good Thinker
To: Everyone
Subject: Think & think again
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:54:18 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: JOHN
To: U.S. THE TERRORIST
Subject: Think & think again
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:57:24 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: Good Thinker
To: U.S. THE TERRORIST
Subject: ENOUGH
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:58:54 2001

Message:
I know this is long, but I assure u, after reading this u will 
change your
minds. This is for all the ppl I have already argued with and 
ppl I WILL
argue with in the future. These are my facts, my 
backup "statements".

This goes out to all who are brainwashed by the media....


U.S. Is Guilty!
What happened to the victims is bad, really bad, the innocent
ones...but...
"Why would anyone want to bomb America?"
"How could someone do this to us?"
"Why would anyone want to hurt us?"
"Why is there so much hatred against the U.S.?"
So many Americans are crying out these words today.
The question being consistently asked is who is responsible. Who 
is
most likely
to have a motive. How about I be like the regular gung-ho 
American
and
say...."No one should hate the freedom loving America that I live
in!"
Let's start a list of regions which I -as a typical brain washed
American-
would not think have justified motives to hate America, and 
commit
acts of
terror the like of which took place on September 11th. That way
we'll clear
suspicion from all the nations and races on this earth who don't
have the right
to hate America, and only be left with the likely suspects. 
Puerto
Rico has no
motive to hate America,....oh shoot, I forgot they're fighting 
for
their
independence from their colonizers, the U.S., countless 
atrocities
and accounts
of U.S. military brutality are coming out of that island every 
day.
Hmm.......well, Iraq has no reason to hate America........oh 
shoot,
I forgot,
they were after all bombed for a decade by the U.S. So they do 
have
a motive.
Hmmmm......Two million of their children have died from economic
embargoes
which are starving the country to death right now, they also had
uranium coded
bombs dropped on them (a form of nuclear warfare) and of course 
who
can forget
the bombardment of missiles and bombs which killed one hundred
thousand people
in Iraq.

Shoot! The list is not getting any shorter, nobody so far is 
being
eliminated
from the list.

Maybe Palestine is U.S. friendly,....well, then again, they are
being
slaughtered by an American funded and backed Israeli military, 
3.4
million
Palestinians are still displaced and fifty thousand Palestinians
have been
killed since the U.S. gave Israel the license to inaugurate the
apartheid
regime they are administering right now.

Well, on to Africa,......Africa should love the U.S...oh wait, 
maybe
not, they
enslaved pretty much the entire western coast of the African
continent. Numbers
of killed and enslaved are in the vicinity (according to some
historical
scholars) to be at the fifteen million mark, some say 
more,.....the
transatlantic slave trade makes Africa a suspect as 
well.....dammit!
The list
of suspects is not going down at all.

Oh, I know! I got it! Japan! They seem to have no problem with 
the
United
States. The United States most populated foreign army base(s) 
are in
Japan........Oh man! I just remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 
The
only country
in the history of the world to detonate nuclear bombs on 
civilians
(deliberately) is the U.S. It dropped two of them, killing three
hundred and
fifty thousand people in Japan. The radiation is still causing
cancer in Japan
today. Therefore Japan definitely has a justified motive to 
attack
America.

Cubans must love America, why else would scores of Cubans escape 
the
communist
country and head for Miami, remember Elian? finally my first
elimination. Oh
no, Cuba is still a suspect. It's motive is justified because, 
well,
simply,
America's economic sanctions on that country have had a 
completely
debilitating
effect on it's people, who now have to live on rations of food.

How about Iran? No, the U.S. CIA pushed and funded Sadaam Hussein
murderous
army to go and fight it's neighbor. The Iraqi flown American jets
and bombers
contributed to the one million deaths from that war with Iran. By
the way boys
and girls, they're still finding bodies from that war.

Afghanistan? Bombed by the U.S. (When was the last time Afghani
planes bombed
America?)

Sudan? Bombed by the U.S.

Pakistan? Bombed by the U.S. (supposedly by accident)

Libya? Bombed by the U.S.

Bosnia? Hell no! The U.S. prevented Bosnians from defending
themselves against
rape/torture-hungry, trigger happy Serbs by imposing a lopsided 
arms
embargo on
the Bosnian Muslims.

Algeria? Hell never. The U.S. supports the French backed military
dictatorship
which commenced after the botched democratic elections in which 
the
Islamic
party was winning by a land slide!

Vietnam? Oh please, don't make me laugh. They burned all the 
faces,
jungles,
and houses of that country Eight hundred thousand Vietnamese were
killed.

North Korea? Half a million killed by the U.S.

Perhaps the only place in this world which doesn't have a 
justified
motive to
hate America is America itself. Wait! Don't forget about 
the "Red"
Indians, the
natives, the indigenous, the aboriginal,no matter how politically
correct the
U.S. government has tried to make it's vocabulary, it still 
doesn't
wipe out
the fact that the natives were completely wiped out. Yesterday,
before Columbus
the butcher came to the west, there were twenty five million 
natives
in North
America, today, there are a little more than five million. Where 
did
twenty
million natives go?!?!? It's as if the American government (at 
least
for a
while) believed that the only good Indian was a dead Indian.

Maybe Cambodia and Laos? No, the U.S mined and bombed those 
places
so much that
they caused the death of a million and people in that part of the
world are
still losing limbs due to left over mines.

It seems that there is no land on this earth which was left
unscathed by
America,.....wait there's hope, what about the oceans.....no, 
they
polluted the
hell out of those oceans.

UNCLE SAM IS A MURDERER! And then Uncle Sam has the audacity to 
feel
shocked at
the falling of TWO buildings in downtown Manhattan. The Nerve to 
be
surprised.?!?!??!

WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?

Every inch on the face of this earth has the right to hate 
America.
You enslave all of Africa, nuke Japan, bomb and burn Iraq, Libya,
Sudan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and Cambodia, 
you
commit
large scale genocide on the natives of this continent, you 
pollute
the entire
world, you support and finance tyrannical governments from 
Israel to
Saudi
Arabia, you divide and conquer, you starve to death the entire 
world
-35 000
children die every day due to hunger because of U.S. foreign
economic policy-
by putting them into debts with excruciatingly high interest
rates?!?!?! And
then you ask WHY YOU ARE HATED!

SHUT UP BUSH!!!! Listen America-

Now you know what Iraq feels like day and night, what Chechnya 
feels
like day
and night, what Bosnia felt like day and night, what Vietnam felt
like day and
night, what Cambodia felt like day and night, what Laos felt like
day and
night, what North Korea felt like day and night! ALL BECAUSE OF
YOU!!! Now You
know the fear that you put the natives through day and night, now
you know the
terror of the slave sleeping in the barn house, now you know the
hell of all
the fires you caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you DOG! you PIG!!

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard, "Why would anyone 
want
to do this
to freedom loving America?"

"Freedom loving America" jails one out of every four black men,
freedom loving
America harbors the worlds largest jailed population, (2 million
prisoners out
the worlds 8 million, a quarter of the incarcerated world is in 
the
U.S.), over
half of your two million inmates are in there for non violent
crimes,...so what
are they in there for? Remember Rome was not made into the power
that it was
from peaceful and diplomatic measures, it climbed to the top by
jailing and
killing all those who opposed it -and as it stands, there are 
still
black
panthers in jail today. More African Americans in the U.S. are
killed every
year, than the number of Africans that were killed on a yearly 
bases
in
apartheid South Africa.

Why would the Muslims hate you? In addition to the obvious 
reasons
stated
above, our very first continental leader El-Hajj-Malik El-Shabbaz
a.k.a.
Malcolm X was shot down 21 times in the freedom loving New York. 
The
FBI was
involved, as one of the guns used by one of the assassins was 
found
to be
supplied to him by an FBI agent, (he was caught and convicted).
So who are the usual suspects, despite the fact that the entire
world has the
right to hate America? the Muslims,.......interesting to note is 
the
fact that
in 1994 there were over two hundred terrorist attacks on U.S.
targets world
wide. Over a hundred were in Latin America (a predominantly 
Catholic
place),
only eight were in the middle east.

Who's the real coward? The one who sits two hundred miles off the
coast of
Saudi Arabia, pushing buttons to shoot missiles at Iraqi targets 
on
a radar, or
the Palestinian kids who throws pebbles and rocks in the face of
American
bought Israeli machine guns.

Don't be fooled by Hollywood movies made on behalf of U.S. 
interests
like the
Seige. On the scales of justice, America is overwhelmingly 
guilty of
being the
biggest global terrorist.

This qualifies the U.S. military to be a justified target for the
entire world
to destroy.

The righteous Muslims, as well as all non-Muslim people who hate
tyrrany and
oppression, declared war on the U.S. a long time ago. The Muslim
world should
first unite, then attack America, (it's military, not it's 
people).
Don't be brainwashed, Islam does not sanction the slaughter of
innocent
civilians, however the pentagon, the infamous building from which
U.S. colonial
interests and attacks are planned world wide is a legitimate 
target
of war.
-All vendors, janitors etc. in the pentagon who died are also
innocent, but
again, ultimate blame rests with the master provoker, the U.S.




From: Everyman
To: John etc.
Subject: Enough
Date: Tue Oct 2 03:14:47 2001

Message:
Dear John,
Enough already!
You don't need to post the same thing 50 times.

From: Italian guy
To: Frenchmen
Date: Tue Oct 2 02:51:34 2001

Message:
Hi, French. I am from Naples, Italy. 
Yeah, I know and I'm glad that the one of russian guy doesn't 
represent most of russians.

From: Everyman
To: All
Subject: We are all People
Date: Tue Oct 2 04:12:56 2001

Message:
Sept. 15, 2001

Dear Mr. President: 

It has been five agonizing days.  My heart goes out to the 
families and friends of the thousands who lost their lives last 
Tuesday. I love this country and I feel the pain as much as any 
one.  I can hardly see the screen of my computer from crying as 
I am writing -- I am crying behind the closed doors of my 
office, because I cannot cry outside.  Why? I was born in 
Afghanistan. 

The fear that I have had for years has been realized.   I knew 
that Afghanistan would have to pay for having Osama Bin Laden as 
its unwanted  guest.   The fact that Osama bin Laden is in 
Afghanistan has nothing to do with the Afghan people 
themselves.  He is not an Afghan and, he is not supported by 
Afghans.  He came by force and will only leave by force. Did the 
Afghan people invite him?  No. Can they remove him?  No.  

Afghans are terrorized themselves.  For the past nine years, I 
have traveled 17 times to Afghanistan to deliver humanitarian 
aid.  I have seen the unspeakable pain and agony of millions who 
are in constant fear, living a powerless shackled existence 
where even learning and showing a woman s face in public is now 
outlawed.  Afghans did not elect their government, they have no 
voice.  

--For too long ours has been a forgotten nation--one that paid a 
heavy price by fighting a war for freedom against the invading 
Soviet Union, which benefited the United States and the world - 
a struggle that helped bring the end of the cold war. 

Our small nation sacrificed over one million lives, had 5 
million refugees, two million widows, over one million orphans, 
over 500,000 amputees. Afghanistan is a country in enormous pain 
and is drowning in her sorrows.  

A nation that has sought freedom and civility for decades, now 
has received the title of "Terrorist Nation".  I hope the U.S. 
Government and American people realize that Afghans have been 
terrorized themselves and kept hostage for years. 

The foreigners who finance and support the operations of bin 
Laden have now fled the Capital city of Kabul leaving behind 
terrified Afghans who look to the skies in fear, and brace 
themselves for more war.  

Let us hope that the United States Government and the American 
people can distinguish between the Afghan people, and the 
perpetrators of these unspeakable acts. 

On behalf of millions of Afghans I express my sincere sympathy 
and hope that the families of the victims find solace in knowing 
that we share their pain and stand by them in such times of 
distress and agony. 

Sincerely, 

Ms. Suraya Sadeed 

Help the Afghan Children, Inc. 


From: Ashraf
To: Spy above
Subject: A Terrorist's Point of View
Date: Tue Oct 2 03:44:10 2001

Message:
I am a Muslim,Sudanese Arab, living in the UAE, but No, I am not 
a Terrorist, nor do I believe in the Killings that took place. I 
dont believe Usama Bin Laden has done it, because we share the 
same principles explained above, and if it is proved that has 
violated our Islamic believes, I believe he should be punished 
subject to the Islamic Law, the penalty in such case being 
Death, for what has been done is simply horrifying.

Thank you...

Peace...

From: Italian guy
To: Afghan guy
Subject: reply
Date: Tue Oct 2 04:17:11 2001

Message:
I'll reply to you even if I'm not American. 
If you really love to have freedom and get rid of Taliban, WHY 
don't yourself get rid of them and get it?


From: Tolik&Anton
To: Taleban
Date: Fri Sep 28 08:16:36 2001

Message:
We hate Bush!!!
We hate USA!!!
Taleban must win the battle!!!

From: World Citizen
To: Enemies of America
Subject: A message to ALL
Date: Tue Oct 2 08:28:06 2001

Message:
I believe a question was posed as to what kind of military 
response America should have.  Many people base their response 
to this question upon Bin Laden's guilt or innocence.  This, to 
me, should not even be considered an issue.  We KNOW that Bin 
Laden helped coordinate the first bombing attack upon the WTC.  
We KNOW that he organized and executed the bombing of the USS 
Cole.  We KNOW that he arranged the bombings of the two US 
embassies in Africa.  Do we really need proof that he is 
responsible for this newest terrorist action?  Emphatically, 
no.  Whether he is guilty or not (I believe he is), he already 
has confirmed guilt in other attacks against the United States.  
This alone is reason enough to warrant military action.  
Secondly, if the US plans a new kind of war against terrorism as 
a whole, we must recognize it as such.  As the President stated, 
this, and the previously mentioned Bin Laden attacks, are acts 
of war.  Many say we cannot call it "war", since their is no 
official "state" on which to declare war.  My assertion is that 
the Al Qaida is, in fact, a "state" in this right.  They may not 
have recognizable borders, but they have a governmental 
structure.  Bin Laden, has appointed a military "secretary", a 
financial "secretary", and other men amongst him to 
related "cabinet" posts.  This mobile "state" has a "diplomatic" 
presence throughout the world, even within the United States.  
In short, this group is in no way different than Nazi Germany, 
or Imperial Japan of the previous century.  The states that side 
with, support, or harbor this "state" shall be considered a 
member of the 21st century's Axis Powers; and those who side 
with the forces of freedom shall be members of this century's 
Allied Powers.  Freedom is most assuredly at stake here.  This 
is a simple proposition:  The countries around the world who 
believe in the rule of law, and abide by common decency and 
civilized conduct, owe it to humanity to annihilate the Al Qaida 
at any cost - be it lives, resources, or power.  Mr. Bin Laden 
is correct:  this is indeed a "holy war".  All peoples of faith, 
be it Christian, true Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Shinto, Tao, or 
Buddhist; shall destroy this earthly cancer at ANY cost.  And to 
the Al Quaida and the Taliban:  Enjoy your final months upon 
this earth and make peace with Allah.

From: World Citizen
To: Enemies of America
Subject: A message to ALL
Date: Tue Oct 2 08:28:06 2001

Message:
I believe a question was posed as to what kind of military 
response America should have.  Many people base their response 
to this question upon Bin Laden's guilt or innocence.  This, to 
me, should not even be considered an issue.  We KNOW that Bin 
Laden helped coordinate the first bombing attack upon the WTC.  
We KNOW that he organized and executed the bombing of the USS 
Cole.  We KNOW that he arranged the bombings of the two US 
embassies in Africa.  Do we really need proof that he is 
responsible for this newest terrorist action?  Emphatically, 
no.  Whether he is guilty or not (I believe he is), he already 
has confirmed guilt in other attacks against the United States.  
This alone is reason enough to warrant military action.  
Secondly, if the US plans a new kind of war against terrorism as 
a whole, we must recognize it as such.  As the President stated, 
this, and the previously mentioned Bin Laden attacks, are acts 
of war.  Many say we cannot call it "war", since their is no 
official "state" on which to declare war.  My assertion is that 
the Al Qaida is, in fact, a "state" in this right.  They may not 
have recognizable borders, but they have a governmental 
structure.  Bin Laden, has appointed a military "secretary", a 
financial "secretary", and other men amongst him to 
related "cabinet" posts.  This mobile "state" has a "diplomatic" 
presence throughout the world, even within the United States.  
In short, this group is in no way different than Nazi Germany, 
or Imperial Japan of the previous century.  The states that side 
with, support, or harbor this "state" shall be considered a 
member of the 21st century's Axis Powers; and those who side 
with the forces of freedom shall be members of this century's 
Allied Powers.  Freedom is most assuredly at stake here.  This 
is a simple proposition:  The countries around the world who 
believe in the rule of law, and abide by common decency and 
civilized conduct, owe it to humanity to annihilate the Al Qaida 
at any cost - be it lives, resources, or power.  Mr. Bin Laden 
is correct:  this is indeed a "holy war".  All peoples of faith, 
be it Christian, true Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Shinto, Tao, or 
Buddhist; shall destroy this earthly cancer at ANY cost.  And to 
the Al Quaida and the Taliban:  Enjoy your final months upon 
this earth and make peace with Allah.

From: An Aussie Guy
To: Everyone
Subject: The Taliban
Date: Tue Oct 2 08:10:57 2001

Message:
Welcome to the site for ignorant, ill-informed, racist pigs with 
brains the size of a shrivelled pea.

If you really want to know what it is like to live under the rule 
of the Taliban, have a look at this web site:
http://www.rawa.org
It is obvious from this site that the Taliban have taken over 
Afghanistan, and the Afghani people no longer have any power to 
control what happens in their country.  They have no freedom.  
Now, in the wake of the New York attacks, the Taliban make 
threats and other ridiculous international gestures which their 
people do not support.  Such a regime must be ended, by whatever 
means.  The Taliban government seeks only to destroy their 
country and their people.  Given enough time they will turn 
Afghanistan into an unpopulated desert.  Like all fanatical 
religious regimes, their ideology is flawed, their methods 
unsound, their minds twisted.  I could say many racist and 
anti-islamic things, but it would not be fair on the good people 
of the middle east and islam.  The problem is the fundamentalist 
Taliban of Afghanistan.  The Taliban religion and culture must 
be destroyed.  This must be done to ensure their culture and 
religion is lost forever.  The Taliban have nothing to contribute 
to the world except pain and misery.

From: An Aussie Guy
To: Everyone
Subject: The Taliban
Date: Tue Oct 2 08:10:57 2001

Message:
Welcome to the site for ignorant, ill-informed, racist pigs with 
brains the size of a shrivelled pea.

If you really want to know what it is like to live under the rule 
of the Taliban, have a look at this web site:
http://www.rawa.org
It is obvious from this site that the Taliban have taken over 
Afghanistan, and the Afghani people no longer have any power to 
control what happens in their country.  They have no freedom.  
Now, in the wake of the New York attacks, the Taliban make 
threats and other ridiculous international gestures which their 
people do not support.  Such a regime must be ended, by whatever 
means.  The Taliban government seeks only to destroy their 
country and their people.  Given enough time they will turn 
Afghanistan into an unpopulated desert.  Like all fanatical 
religious regimes, their ideology is flawed, their methods 
unsound, their minds twisted.  I could say many racist and 
anti-islamic things, but it would not be fair on the good people 
of the middle east and islam.  The problem is the fundamentalist 
Taliban of Afghanistan.  The Taliban religion and culture must 
be destroyed.  This must be done to ensure their culture and 
religion is lost forever.  The Taliban have nothing to contribute 
to the world except pain and misery.

From: un-named
To: >:)
Date: Fri Sep 14 17:19:53 2001

Message:
2 day later 
america 
BOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOAD NGs
bomb away 
bomb hes been plented!:))))
yeeha kansaaaaaas and bye bye

From: Pathfinder
To: Everyone
Subject: Wake Up.
Date: Tue Oct 2 09:26:39 2001

Message:
Thank God for the crusades.  We would all be speaking Arabic and 
worshipping a rock in a buildidng in Mecca if it wasn't for the 
crusades.

The sobbing liberals tell us how evil the crusades were.  Hell, 
it was pay then and a new crusade would be pay back now.  I say 
free the world from Islam.  Bull doze every mosque in America 
first and then the rest of the world.

Think about it.  The Moslems are at war in almost every country 
that they are in.  In India they are fighting Hindus.  In Sudan 
and the Phillipines they are slaughtering Chritians.  In Israel 
they are killing Jews.  The death and destruction in Iran has 
destroyed almost every non-Moslem religion.  Please explain to 
me how we can live at peace with Islam.  Don't give me 
that "Give peace a chance" crap.  We tried that and we have 7000 
dead.


From: A white boy
To: everyone
Subject: ^ -]$(*-
Date: Tue Oct 2 13:25:04 2001

Message:
// #/](#^ -# /--$# * #  _#{$&*#) &)*(# - 

From: Bomb His Ass
To: Terrorist
Subject: Thank you Mr. Pres
Date: Tue Oct 2 13:24:06 2001

Message:
WHAT PRES BUSH MENT TO SAY!!!!!!!
Good evening my fellow Americans. 
First, I want to pass on my condolences to the people of New 
York and all 
Americans that are hurting in this tragic time. You can rest 
assured that 
anything and everything that can be done to assure the safety of 
our 
country will be done. This is the greatest country in the world 
and we 
will get through this trying time. Now is the time for all 
people to set 
aside our petty differences and show the world that no one or 
nothing can 
destroy the fortitude of the American people. 
To the people responsible for today's tragedy, I say this: 
Are you fucking kidding me? Are the turbans on your heads 
wrapped too 
tight? Have you gone too long without a bath? Do you not know 
who you are 
fucking with? Americans are so hungry to kill, that we shoot at 
each other 
every day. We will relish that opportunity for new targets for 
our 
aggression. 
Have you forgotten history? What happened to the last people 
that started 
fucking around with us? Remember the little yellow bastards over 
in Japan? 
We slapped them all over the Pacific and roasted about 2 million 
of them in 
their own back yard. That's what we in America call a big ass 
barbecue. 
Ever seen Texas on a map? Ever wonder why it's so big? 
Because we wanted it that way, Mexico started jacking around 
with the Alamo 
and now they cut our lawns. England? We sent them packing. 
Ask your buddy Saddam about fucking with the good 'ole USA. The 
only 
reason he got away the first time is because it's too hard to 
shoot someone 
when you're doubled over laughing at them. Our soldiers aren't 
trained to 
laugh and shoot at the same time. Now he couldn't stop a pack of 
cub 
scouts from taking over his shitty little country. 
Trust us, Afghanistan will end up a giant kitty litter box. Go 
ahead and 
try to hide, Bin Laden. There's not a hole deep enough or a 
mountain high 
enough that's going to keep your camel riding asses safe. We 
will bomb 
every inch of the country that harbors him, his camps and any 
place that 
looks and even smells like he was there. Hell, we might even 
drop a few 
bombs on people that have pissed us off in the past. This is 
America. We 
kick ass. This is what we do. Go ahead and laugh now, but the 
Tomahawks 
are coming and we will smoke your sorry asses. 
God bless America! 

From: Bomb His Ass
To: Terrorist
Subject: Thank you Mr. Pres
Date: Tue Oct 2 13:24:06 2001

Message:
WHAT PRES BUSH MENT TO SAY!!!!!!!
Good evening my fellow Americans. 
First, I want to pass on my condolences to the people of New 
York and all 
Americans that are hurting in this tragic time. You can rest 
assured that 
anything and everything that can be done to assure the safety of 
our 
country will be done. This is the greatest country in the world 
and we 
will get through this trying time. Now is the time for all 
people to set 
aside our petty differences and show the world that no one or 
nothing can 
destroy the fortitude of the American people. 
To the people responsible for today's tragedy, I say this: 
Are you fucking kidding me? Are the turbans on your heads 
wrapped too 
tight? Have you gone too long without a bath? Do you not know 
who you are 
fucking with? Americans are so hungry to kill, that we shoot at 
each other 
every day. We will relish that opportunity for new targets for 
our 
aggression. 
Have you forgotten history? What happened to the last people 
that started 
fucking around with us? Remember the little yellow bastards over 
in Japan? 
We slapped them all over the Pacific and roasted about 2 million 
of them in 
their own back yard. That's what we in America call a big ass 
barbecue. 
Ever seen Texas on a map? Ever wonder why it's so big? 
Because we wanted it that way, Mexico started jacking around 
with the Alamo 
and now they cut our lawns. England? We sent them packing. 
Ask your buddy Saddam about fucking with the good 'ole USA. The 
only 
reason he got away the first time is because it's too hard to 
shoot someone 
when you're doubled over laughing at them. Our soldiers aren't 
trained to 
laugh and shoot at the same time. Now he couldn't stop a pack of 
cub 
scouts from taking over his shitty little country. 
Trust us, Afghanistan will end up a giant kitty litter box. Go 
ahead and 
try to hide, Bin Laden. There's not a hole deep enough or a 
mountain high 
enough that's going to keep your camel riding asses safe. We 
will bomb 
every inch of the country that harbors him, his camps and any 
place that 
looks and even smells like he was there. Hell, we might even 
drop a few 
bombs on people that have pissed us off in the past. This is 
America. We 
kick ass. This is what we do. Go ahead and laugh now, but the 
Tomahawks 
are coming and we will smoke your sorry asses. 
God bless America! 

From: an American
To: Osama Bin Laden
Subject: Your turn will come
Date: Tue Oct 2 14:05:56 2001

Message:
You are a disgrace to the nation. Because of you, many lives have 
been destroyed. You will pay for what you have done. You must 
die. There is no future for you. You're future is in Hell. You 
will burn. Payback is a bitch. hahaha

From: an American
To: Osama Bin Laden
Subject: Your turn will come
Date: Tue Oct 2 14:05:56 2001

Message:
You are a disgrace to the nation. Because of you, many lives have 
been destroyed. You will pay for what you have done. You must 
die. There is no future for you. You're future is in Hell. You 
will burn. Payback is a bitch. hahaha

From: Ashraf
To: All Americans and the World at Large
Subject: A Terrorist's Point of View
Date: Tue Oct 2 16:31:57 2001

Message:
ashraf@UAEDesertSafari.com



The American People & the world at large



A Terrorist s Opinion



I am a Muslim who prays 5 times a day, I'm a SUDANESE, born in 

LIBYA, and residing in the UAE. So basically, I am the closest 

you will ever get a religious, MUSLIM TERRORIST, as per the 

classification of the average American citizen. So what I have 

to say could be of interest to you 



This is how it is. 



First and foremost, my heart sincerely goes out to the whole 

world, starting with the American People, for the grief and 

misery that have come upon them, as a result of the WTC 

incidents. 

What happened is not acceptable to anyone who believes in God, 

be him a Muslim or a Christian. As to the  Palestinian-killing  

Jews, anyone in their right mind should know what they are all 

about.



Islam??? Here is a short note about the meeting point between 

killing and Islam.



Islam permits killings, when in time of war, subject to the 

following unbreachable conditions:

1. Self Defense, when one's life is in clear danger, provided 

that one s retaliation is adequately proportional to the danger 

in hand i.e. not a bullet for a punch or a kick 

2. During a war, but the following are to be excluded at all 

costs: 

a. Women

b. Children

c. The elderly

d. A civilian, minding his own business, even if he is from 

opposing nation



In other words, fight only those fighting you, with their 

weapons drawn in your face.



These Islamic principles are taught to each and every Muslim, 

from the age of 5. Which one of these Islamic directives would 

you disagree with ? 



To cut a long story short:

1. Allah, Islam and Muslims, or diper-heads, unfortunately 

enough,  as some of you wish to call us, , do not approve of 

killing civilians, women, children, nor the elderly.

2. If Usama Bin Laden had actually planned or master-minded 

this operation, any proper Muslim would ensure that he is to be 

put on Trial, no doubt, and the Islamic sentence for such an 

act, is death

3. For a trial to be held, concrete evidence must be 

submitted

4. Any action by a nation, against any civilian, be him 

Muslim, Christian or otherwise, residing in a Muslim nation, 

Islamically results in the declaration of a wholly war against 

such nation ie Jihad. This is regarded as an act of self-defense.



No Muslim has the right to take the life of any human being, 

unless in a state of war, and subject to the ethical conditions 

of Islamic wars above.



No Muslim disagrees with the above, so the question now is .  Do 

you still believe Islam to be a religion of violence ? 



Islam is a religion of Respect and Dignity. 



If you think otherwise, you need to read more, and not judge 

Islam by the media in your country, because unfortunately, the 

Jews control that. Has a justification been given about the 

4,000 Israelis who didn t Turn up for work on the 11th of 

September ? 



Americans .. Wake up and Think for yourselves .!!



Again, I repeat, I am a true Muslim, and I am proud of my 

Religion and if Usama has done, he should be sentenced to death, 

according to Islam...



These are the facts, so does anyone out there still think that 

Islam, Muslims and Allah equal Terrorism...? 



Do you still think that I am a Terrorist, just because I am a 

Sudanese, Muslim, Arab, born in Libya, and living in the UAE?



Think Fairly...



Peace...

From: A humanitarian.
To: Those who are small minded.
Subject: Hurt and Peace.
Date: Tue Oct 2 17:27:32 2001

Message:
All of us are crying out against each other when ourselves have 
never actually harmed any of the screaming.  We all know of 
pain, we all know of lack of wealth or the dreams of becoming 
rich.  Why do we all have to scream and yell and raise our 
fists.  All tha happens is that others are hurt, murdered and 
killed and even more die.  This is a political fight, not for 
those of us that stand on the side lines.  We picked a president 
to fight our fights.  Why are we trying to get involved.  When I 
see a person that is not of my color, I do not throw rocks, 
raise my fist, I do not cut my eyes.  I do the same thing as 
when I see someone of my own race;  walk straight past.  It 
hurts America for those of you to continue your stupid, shallow 
minded, callus remarks.  Our reputation is responsible for the 
acts, making others think that we are sitting on some sort of a 
high horse.  We are not any better!  Can we not all chill out 
and grow up.  Let the president handle our affairs.  And as for 
the rest of the world, please think of how we feel.  You know 
how we feel.  Why do you condemn us?  We have never condemned 
ANY of you.

Thank you.

From: Spy
To: Ashraf
Date: Tue Oct 2 18:14:07 2001

Message:
You say you don't believe bin Laden was behind these 
attacks.
 What about the USS Cole? What about the previous attack 
on the WTC?
 What about his call out to all Muslims to kill all Americans 
around the world in the name of Islam?
 What about the films of his terrorist camps showing his 
followers shooting pictures of Clinton and figures with the 
Cross (symbol of Christ) on them? Is this the peace you 
refer to in your faith?
 Is this how you exercise your faith?

 I want peace also,but peace cannot be held hostage by the 
terrorist of the world.
 Are you really sure bin Laden shares your same principals? 
Do you know bin Laden?
 You said in your previous answer that "---No, I am not a 
terrorist---". If that is true,then I would
say that your answer regarding bin Laden's "faith" and 
"principals" do not match that of yours.

 Also, if you are not a terrorist, (and if I was you) I wouldn't
 "give a terrorist point of view".

From: me
To: you
Date: Tue Oct 2 19:15:53 2001

Message:
Doesn't anyone on here have spell check?

From: Spy
To: Tolik&Anton
Subject: DEADMEATISRIPE
Date: Tue Oct 2 19:08:51 2001

Message:
Have a nice time in hell-----NOT !!!

From: "An" American
To: Ashraf
Subject: Nicely explained
Date: Tue Oct 2 19:57:56 2001

Message:
Your explaination was nicely  written.  Thank you.  
I know as a child I was taught that the Catholic Religion was the 
only "true" religion.  During my spiritual awakening as an adult, 
it led me on a journey of study from Christianity, to the Koran, 
Judiasm, to Hinduism, etc.  The only thing that makes true sense 
to me is my relationship I have with God.  I do not force my 
beliefs on anyone, I don't practice religion, I don't believe in 
religion of any kind.  I only believe in Jesus Christ and his 
sacrifice he made for mankind for the forgiveness of sins.  The 
Bible is his word he gave to man, written by man while under the 
enlightenment of the Holy Spirit. 

I respect your beliefs, and I respect others beliefs as long as 
they are not forced on me.  Fundamentalism takes the rights of 
a person's self determination and often leads to many negative 
results in one's freedom.  I guess this is why I am glad in 
America that there is separation from Church and State.  All 
religions and spiritually enlightened people, or not, can worship 
as they wish.

Take care, God be with you always.

From: me
To: all of you people on this site
Date: Tue Oct 2 20:45:26 2001

Message:
I really think all of you are a bunch of radicals.Talk is cheap 
and I am waiting to see how the United States and the rest of 
the free world are going to take care of this Towel Head Bin 
Laden. I should think that the USA has fare reaching technology 
to find this coward and flush him out. The Taliban are all 
terrorists and that seems to be what they teach. Personally I 
think there will be many dead Americans before this is over but 
there will be many dead terrorists. So God Bless The Free World 
let's get the party going.

From: Spy
To: humanitirian
Date: Tue Oct 2 21:31:14 2001

Message:
You say--
"This is a political fight, not for 
those of us that stand on the side lines."
Well---you just keep your hands in your pockets. Let 
everyone else watch your back----hell, only 6000+ people 
dead;and none of 'em you.
"political fight"-------PPPPLLLEEEAAASSSE----give me a 
f--king break !!!!! You think this is a fricking election!!!

Somebody killed my bros.&sisters and they're sitting over 
there in afghan spoutting off how they want me dead,my 
family dead,you dead,your family dead,my white friends and 
their families dead,my Indian friends and their families 
dead,my black friends and their families dead. Which brings 
me to another point---Its not about race !!!!!! 
 You ask--
 "Why are we trying to get involved?"
What planet are you on anyways???Why did you even bother 
coming to this afghan page ??? You're not trying to live the 
sixty's, are you?

From: Rhah
To: All
Subject: USA.
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:16:38 2001

Message:
I urge all Americans to step back and sit down for a minute. Do 
a little research on the net, and discover for themselves just 
how easy life is for them compared to the rest of the globe. 
Times are changing. Honestly, all of the folks that died it the 
attacks on the states basically had it coming. I think that it 
is time for America to play catch up to the rest of us who have 
been in turmoil for decades.

Rhah

From: Bob
To:
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:27:54 2001

Message:

From:
To:
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:25:52 2001

Message:
tis is billanjanet. We are from oklahoma.USA. Where we pray when 
we want to we work in a great country. we play we laugh and we 
are not split apart because of what happen in New York. In fact 
we are all comming together.stronger. thats what we are all about 
we are americans and we are proud and thats something know one 
can ever take away


                           sincerly 
                          the people of america

From: "PROUD AMERICAN"
To:
Subject: TO AUSSIE GUY, FRENCH MEN , Humitrian, ASHARF
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:20:03 2001

Message:
TO THE FREENCH MEN, AUSSIE GUY AND ASHARF THE LIBIAN, 
HUMANITIRAN!!! I WANT TO APPALD YOU GUYS~!!  YOU HAVE 
INTELLIGENT RESPONSES ABOUT THE ATTACK ON 9-11-01! THE REST OF 
THE PEOPLE HEAR ARE KKK white supermacisit who have the same 
seeds of hate instilled in them as the TAliban!! SORRY BUT MOST 
AMERICANS ARE IGNORANT OF THEIR OWN HISTORY AND THE HISTORY OF 
OUTHER COUNTRIES! I GO TO A STATE UNIVERSITY AND I HAVE COME 
ACROSS LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IGNORANT ABOUT ISLAM, AFGHANS and 
AMERICAN HISTORY!  SORRY FOR THE DISRESPECT AND VULGAR LANGUAGES 
THAT MY FELLOW AMERICANS USE ON THIS SITE!! UNFORNTUNATELY 
EUROPEAN EDUCATION, ASIAN COUNTrIES ETC IS BETTER THAN U.S !

From: An American
To: All
Subject: Why all this?
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:18:32 2001

Message:
The decision is made, the carriers are there, the northern 
alliance, well resupplied by the Russians, according to CBS is 
within 9 miles of the Capitol.  THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.  THE 
TILABAN AND BIN LADEN WILL BE DESTROYED AT WHATEVER COST TO US 
AFTER THEIR COWARD SNEAK ATTACK ON THE USA.  It is a matter of 
the miltary picking the right night to hit.  Our special forces 
are all over the place.  THE COURSE IS SET AND WE SHALL 
PREVAIL.  AND WHOEVER WANTS TO JOIN THEM IN THEIR ANTI-MUSLIN 
AND ANTI-AMERICAN "WAR" WILL SUFFER THE SAME FATE.  BUSH HAS 
MADE IT CLEAR---USE BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS AND YOU WILL SEE OUR 
NUKES. IF WE HAVE TO, WHATEVER MOUNTAIN BIN LADEN IS HIDING IN 
CAN BE LEVELED BY A NUKE.  THE COURSE IS SET.  THE LAST TO 
LAUNCH A SNEAK ATTACK ON US---JAPAN---IT TOOK US 4 YEARS TO 
BRING THEM TO THEIR SURRENDER WHEN THEY SURRENDERED ON THE FIRST 
BATTLESHIP THEY SHUNK AT PEAL.  IF IT TAKES 4 YEARS ON THESE 
PEOPLE, SO BE IT.  MAYBE WILL WILL HAVE THEM SURRENDER ON THE 
REMAIN OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ON TOP OF THOSE INNOCENT 
THOUSANDS THEY KILLED.  DONE!!!!

From: Bob
To: John , good thinker ,Tolik&Anton
Subject: U suck
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:29:38 2001

Message:
Ur a flaming butt faggot . YOU ALL SUCK CAMMEL SCROTUM . talking 
smak about the us will be ur undoing . me and my country will 
deport you . leave or die . U anti americans suck . I am gonna 
fly my Harrier and bomb U . did u see true lies ? i love it when 
he flies the Harrier up to the buldings and shoots up all those 
terrorists , although a little more blood and body splatering 
would do . Y do i bring this up? because when i get my AV-8B in 
the air that will happen to you ! and vurtures will feast ur 
carcus . Then ill fly to afghanistan and kill the Taliban and 
bin laden and the alqueda . anyone who mourns their death will 
die too . Wish me luck , ill have so much fun 

From: Bob
To: all
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:42:21 2001

Message:
hey read the message of the dude who wrote beforre me , not in 
the red . but before . hes right , im all for it 

From: Spy
To: Rhah
Subject: "jealousy"
Date: Tue Oct 2 22:23:24 2001

Message:
Is'nt there some kind of saying about envy? About coveting 
thy neigbors stuff?
Oh---I get it now---rape,steal,murder, carnage on the land 
kind of thing--- hey? 
I've seen your kind before, to lazy to pick yourself up, easier 
to take from others.
I think in some countries they lop off one of your 
extreminities for that kind of thinking. Maybe your head.

Remember---none of us get out of here alive--"yours is 
coming to!"

From: USA D.J. MIX ALOT
To: THE WHOLE WORLD
Subject: BAD ASS U>S>A>
Date: Tue Oct 2 21:49:30 2001

Message:
Ya, so you all think USA is the biggest, evil, bad ass in the 
world?

Ya say we kill all over the place and we don't respect nothin?

WELL YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT! 

SO WHY YOU MESSIN WITH US?

WHY WOULD YOU GO AN PULL THE EARS OF THE MAD DOG?!?

WE GONNA BITE YOUR ARM OFF AND RIP YOU TO BITS!

U>S>A>
DON'T NEED NO EXCUSE TO POUND ON YOUR COUNTRY, NO SIR!

U.S.A. GONNA POUND YOU ALL INTO DUST, 
YA BOYEEEE 
YOUS GONNA PAY...

AN YO GO AN GIV USA A REASON TO HATE?  
LIKE WE NEED A REASON?

WE IS MAD MEN WITH BOMBS AND YOU GONNA MESS WITH US?

WE LOVE TO KILL 
AND
YOU FIXIN' TO DRAW
A BULLSEYE ON YOUR OWN HEAD?

BAD MOVE' MO' !  

SING ALONG WITH ME NOW:

CRAZY CRAZY USA
GONNA BLAST BLAST AWAY
GONNA TAKE IT OUT ON YOUR COUNTRY 
BE IT AS IT MAY
YOU SLAP DOWN THE GLOVE 
YOU READY FOR A FIGHT?
Y'ALL IN A HEAP OF TROUBLE NOW...
AND YOU'S KNOW I BE RIGHT!

YALL MOANIN' 'BOUT HOW BAD WE IS...
YALL YAPPIN 'BOUT THE TROUBLE WE MAKE...
SO DID YOU THINK WE'D ROLL OVER
HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK WE WOULD TAKE?

CRAZY CRAZY USA
GONNA BLAST YOU MO'FO'S AWAY
CAN'T HIDE IN EUROPE, 
CAN'T HIDE IN IRAN,
CAN'T HIDE IN AFRICA, 
CAN'T HIDE IN AMERICA,
CAN'T HIDE IN CANADA,
CAN'T HIDE IN MEXICO,
CAN'T HIDE IN INDIA, 
CAN'T HIDE IN ASIA
CAN'T HIDE AT NIGHT
CAN'T HIDE IN THE DAY...
THE US 
WILL FIND YOU
AND
BLOW YOU AWAY!

YOU THINK 
YOU DA BAD ASS?
YOU THINK
YOU THE TROUBLE MAKA?
U.S.A. GONNA SEND YOU
IN A BODYBAG
TO THE UNDA TAKA!

SO WHY YOU MESS WITH US,
WHEN YOU KNOW WE IS CRAZY...
TANKS AND SHIPS AND BOMBS...
WE KILL CAUSE WE AIN'T LAZY!

TAKE HEED 
TAKE WARNING
DON'T COME MESSING
WITH USA THIS MORNING

U.S.A.
U.S.A.
U.S. OF A.

IT'S U.S.A.
OR THE HIGHWAY!

WORD!


D.J. MIX ALOT - TELLIN IT LIKE IT IS, FOOL!

From: Yankee
To: Terrorists
Subject: Cowardice
Date: Wed Oct 3 00:26:15 2001

Message:
A terrorists is a coward.  He refuses to fight you out in the 
open, he fights dirty.  He is mindless, a puppet for extremist 
idealogues.  Killing 5000+ is not going to get you into anyone's 
heaven, I can assure you, no ones "God" condones murder in any 
form.  
Terrorists, Don't you want a normal life, a wife and kids?  
Grandchildren,a future! don't sacrfice your life for some 
fanatic like Osama.  

From: Tex
To: Taliban.non
Subject: open letter to ObL & Taliban
Date: Wed Oct 3 00:35:23 2001

Message:
An open message to the Osamen bin Laden 
(or whateverthefuckhisshittyname is),Taliban, 
and any other fuck head that supports them.

You think Afghanistan is fucked up now? We are gonna smoke your 
fucking rag-head asses. Do we care about creating more terrorists 
as a result of us attacking?  Whatever gave you the idea we are 
gonna let someone over there live? We have all these old nukes 
& we need to use 'em up. 
I say that if you want to be a terrorist we will help you die for 
Allah  But, no Allah for you shitheads. No God will ever let you 
dumb fucking bastards into Heaven. We will remove you from 
existence. You mother fuckers are about to be sent to hell.
Who gives a shit if you beat the Russians? You have not beat a 
pissed off USA or the rest of the world.  We are about to 
exterminate you cockroaches. You stupid cocksuckers can expect to 
be dead in a month. We will vacation in Afghanistan when it 
becomes a real country again and we will piss on your graves. We 
are going to show you how terrorism is really done ala Hiroshima. 
 Hope you don't have too much trouble sleeping at night wondering 
when we are gonna slit your throat or nuke your tents. You ass 
wipes started it & we are gonna finish it. 
Go ahead & bend over dipshit 'cause we have a big one with your 
name on it.  We are pissed and you just became our target. You 
dumb asses can't provide us any evidence that you didn't arrange 
this attack on us, so we have decided that you no longer get to 
live. Guilty as charged.  Bush will fuck your world once & for 
all. He has a 90% approval rating in USA. Our people have granted 
Bush virtually unlimited power to wage war on you.  He did not 
sign many reprieves in Texas. What makes you dumb bastards think 
he's gonna let you off? Adios motherfuckers! We won't miss any of 
you when you are gone. 
We should take Iraq next. Who is gonna stop us? Besides we could 
use the oil and Bush can give his dad Gaddam Hussein's head for 
Christmas. Do not fuck with Texas. Don't fuck with New York and 
never fuck with the USA.

A Texan

From: An American
To: John-Good Thinker
Subject: Think & think Again
Date: Wed Oct 3 00:37:48 2001

Message:
ROTFLMAO...good thinker?  You're a freakin' moron!  You also 
have to do something about your motor skills deficit.  Medicine 
maybe?  

From: Tex
To: terrorist slugs
Subject: turn the heat on!
Date: Wed Oct 3 01:19:49 2001

Message:
Kill all of the fuckin' Taliban & terrorist slugs & let God sort 
them out. Are you with us, or are you against us? No panzie ass 
middle of the road crap. No "why did this happen" shit. No "what 
will happen if we kill them." Just do it. No B-52's & no  
helicopters, just nuclear wareheads & lots of them. Make it so 
hot that everybody will know we do not give a damn about their 
pissant country. Nobody is gonna live there for a long time so 
forget it ever existed. Don't worry about winter approaching we 
are gonna increase the temperature over there by about 2,000 
degrees. AMF.

From:
To: an italian guy
Date: Wed Oct 3 04:06:43 2001

Message:
Just remember: it all started with the bible, then the quaran, 
baghavad gita, book of mormon, little red book, little green 
book, etc. etc. 
awww, how superior animals are over human beings!!!!!


BESTIALITA 

Un gabbiano a New York guard  con ammirazione le dueTorri 
Gemelle;
Bisognava essere superiori per saper far cose come quelle.
Se gli uomini avessero le ali, sarebbero davvero divini,
Ma  anche senza- ad essere degli Dei andavano abbastanza vicini.
Almeno per lui, sua moglie ed anche tutti gli altri gabbiani:
Nel loro mondo non conoscevano esseri migliori degli umani.

Finch  un giorno, vide un grosso uccello volare, basso e veloce.
Era di ferro ed aveva un aria disperatamente feroce,
Un attimo dopo si scontr  con una delle torri, con un gran 
fracasso.
Poi arriv  un altro uccello enorme, che vol  ancora pi  basso.
Tagli  in due pezzi l altra torre, come se fosse fatta di 
argilla.
Le persone dentro quelle torri dovettero essere pi  di 6000!

Quando le torri crollarono, sent  tanti uomini e donne gridare,
Cadevano tra i detriti e fumo, perch  non potevano volare.
Il gabbiano cap  che erano stati degli altri esseri umani
A volere distruggere i loro stessi consimili americani.
Tristemente vol  con  sua moglie verso la Statua della Libert ,
Consapevole che gli animali sono superiori all umanit .

Mentre guardava il fumo, cap  che lo stesso pensiero pericoloso
Stava alla base di quel terribile 11 settembre disastroso.
Per vivere e lasciar vivere bisogna imparare ad accontentarsi
Nel rispetto degli altri, se no,   facile finire per ammazzarsi.
Ma gi  prima tutti gli animali, quel ostacolo l avevano vinto.
Perch , a differenza degli uomini, sono muniti di istinto .

From:
To: an italian guy
Subject: + letters with accents
Date: Wed Oct 3 04:06:43 2001

Message:
Just remember: it all started with the bible, then the quaran, 
baghavad gita, book of mormon, little red book, little green 
book, etc. etc. 
awww, how superior animals are over human beings!!!!!


BESTIALITA 

Un gabbiano a New York guardo con ammirazione le dueTorri 
Gemelle;
Bisognava essere superiori per saper far cose come quelle.
Se gli uomini avessero le ali, sarebbero davvero divini,
Ma  anche senza- ad essere degli Dei andavano abbastanza vicini.
Almeno per lui, sua moglie ed anche tutti gli altri gabbiani:
Nel loro mondo non conoscevano esseri migliori degli umani.

Finche un giorno, vide un grosso uccello volare, basso e veloce.
Era di ferro ed aveva un aria disperatamente feroce,
Un attimo dopo si scontro con una delle torri, con un gran 
fracasso.
Poi arrivo un altro uccello enorme, che vol  ancora pi  basso.
Taglio in due pezzi l altra torre, come se fosse fatta di 
argilla.
Le persone dentro quelle torri dovettero essere pi  di 6000!

Quando le torri crollarono, sent  tanti uomini e donne gridare,
Cadevano tra i detriti e fumo, perch  non potevano volare.
Il gabbiano cap  che erano stati degli altri esseri umani
A volere distruggere i loro stessi consimili americani.
Tristemente volo con  sua moglie verso la Statua della Liberta,
Consapevole che gli animali sono superiori all umanit .

Mentre guardava il fumo, cap  che lo stesso pensiero pericoloso
Stava alla base di quel terribile 11 settembre disastroso.
Per vivere e lasciar vivere bisogna imparare ad accontentarsi
Nel rispetto degli altri, se no, e facile finire per ammazzarsi.
Ma gia prima tutti gli animali, quel ostacolo l avevano vinto.
Perche, a differenza degli uomini, sono muniti di istinto .

From: Australiano
To: an italian guy
Subject: Bravo
Date: Wed Oct 3 06:03:35 2001

Message:
Tu hai scritto questo messaggio tutto da solo?

From: ghj
To: ghj
Subject: fghj
Date: Wed Oct 3 06:26:53 2001

Message:
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From: MILITAIR
To: TALIBAN
Subject: HAHAHA
Date: Wed Oct 3 09:56:49 2001

Message:
HEY,
TALIBS YOU ARE DEBILS!!!!

From: a Canadian
To: Bin Ladin
Subject: evil
Date: Wed Oct 3 10:27:45 2001

Message:
You miniscule piece of cow shit.
Put you head between your legs
and kiss your ass goodbye!!
Death is too good for you,
there should be some other means
of disposing of filth like you.

From: An American
To: Friends in Europe
Subject: THANKS!
Date: Wed Oct 3 11:56:01 2001

Message:
I am very thankful on this "Board" for the support from our 
friends in Canada and Europe.  We fight for you too just as we 
did during WWII as Patton and other came up through Italy and 
France to free you from Hilter and his puppets.  You too are 
under the gun from the terrorists.  The media reports Italy and 
France were the next primary targets.  NATO, the most powerful 
force in the world, is us standing together as we have for many 
years.  The course is set for us all.  We must utterly defeat 
these terrorists to be safe again just as we did Hilter in 1945 
with much courage.  These people don't know what they face---it 
is not just the old Soviets , it is now all of Europe, the 
Soviets and we Americans.  Sadam uttered the same stuff---you 
will never defeat us---the war was over in 5 days with Quwait 
back in the real governments hands.  I am greatful for the 
unheard of support of the Soviets after our blunders of the past 
helped kill many Russian soliders---a bad and tragic mistake on 
our part. I apologize to the Russian people for the act of our 
government at the time arming the same people we now face that 
will kill US soliders with those same weapons. Putin is a real 
leader.  Why does so much of the third world hate the US and 
NATO?  Because we will never allow a State such as Hilter or 
Afgan to cause genocide and death to an undefended group.  It is 
our duty to step in and do something to stop it.  Churchill, 
DeGuall and others warned us of that in 1938.  We are the only 
ones powerful enough to do it and they resent that.  What 
national interest could any of the countries of NATO possibly 
have in Afgan----nothing there but a big expensive ticket to 
rebuild a shattered nation.  It has no stragetic value to us in 
any way.  If France, Italy, England or any of the NATO countries 
suffered a surprise attack as we just did, the US would be there 
in a heartbeat to help. TOGETHER, WE SHALL PREVAIL! God(of your 
choice)Bless you.  David---an American 

From: Fred
To: you
Subject: yo
Date: Wed Oct 3 12:51:10 2001

Message:
Don't use bad words

From: A turkey
To: America
Subject: no
Date: Wed Oct 3 12:54:18 2001

Message:
Don't lose to the Osama Bin Latin you dudes

From: A proud American
To: Them
Subject: WTC
Date: Wed Oct 3 12:51:51 2001

Message:
It cost me money to get online. I hope we find Osama bin Laden 
so we can find out who did this. I'm doing a report

From: "An" American
To: To All
Subject: Bush on Track
Date: Wed Oct 3 14:01:15 2001

Message:
Bush is on track and hopefully a "just" government will be 
installed in Afganistan and all that's left of Bin Laden and the 
Taliban are just a bunch of turbans.  If America is so bad, just 
what are the terrorists doing to make the world a better place? 
Not much.

From: an Italian guy
To: aussie
Date: Wed Oct 3 14:51:20 2001

Message:
yeah, ALL by myself. Did you like it, aussie?

From: Holland/Italy
To: AN American
Subject: Salman Rushdie
Date: Wed Oct 3 15:40:25 2001

Message:
This is exactly what Salman Rushdie wrote in an article 
published in today's Italian newspaper "La 
Repubblica": "Whatever the terrorists might want to obtain, for 
sure making this world a better world is not one of their plans.
He also said some other wise words: If there is such a thing as 
the taliban, Bin Laden and other fanaticals and fundamentalists 
who call themselves Muslims, The Arab countries have a big 
problem as well, and all Muslims of every country should should 
question themselves and try to understand why things went wrong."
Also, that we , in our western world, should stand for 
everything we believe in; films, music, freedom of speech, even 
mini-skirts and bacon sandwiches,kissing in public or whatever 
you like. We have come a long way and those are things we all 
can be PROUD of!!!!! 

From: A Friend
To: All
Subject: Historical Perspective
Date: Wed Oct 3 17:07:32 2001

Message:
Needed: A New Age of Enlightenment 

by Charlie Stross 
September 13, 2001
It is now almost 48 hours since two airliners ploughed into the 
World Trade Center, another dived onto the Pentagon, and a 
fourth came down near Pittsburgh.

You'd think that every possible angle would already have been 
covered by people writing about the events of September 11th. So 
why am I writing this, and why now?

Because in all the media coverage I've seen so far, nobody has 
been asking the right, the important, questions. Like: why did 
this happen, what circumstances got us into a de facto state of 
undeclared war with the Islamic world, and what can we 
realistically do to prevent those circumstances from ever 
recurring.

In this essay I'm going to talk about three things:

* How we drifted into this situation over a period of fifty or 
more years
* What will happen if we don't deal with the root causes of the 
mess
* What we can do to fix things (apart from fighting a war)

How did we get into this mess?

Some of you in the US are going to wonder why I, in the UK, am 
bothering with this. I'm 3000 miles away from New York, in a 
country that wasn't directly affected; nevertheless the event is 
too overwhelming to bear. People around here have been walking 
around in shock, all around the world. This isn't simply an act 
of terrorism directed against the USA; it affects everyone, 
world-wide. This event is going to be one of the defining 
political moments of the 21st century?whether for good or for 
ill. (And there seems precious little scope for good in it right 
now.)

To understand why it happened we have to go back to the 19th 
century, or even earlier. And if we fail to understand its 
roots, we run the risk of failing to prevent similar events from 
happening in future.

Let's get one thing straight, up front: these atrocities did not 
happen just because a group of twenty fanatics decided to get on 
board some airliners, hijack them, and ram some of the most 
significant buildings in the United States. Nor will going after 
their shadowy leaders stop this from happening again. Even a 
massed thermonuclear strike on the Islamic world, followed by a 
campaign of genocide directed against a quarter of the world's 
population, won't stop this from happening again. This is a 
complex situation; simplistic answers?even drastic ones?simply 
won't work.

So what can we do? First, we need to understand where the roots 
of the conflict are. Secondly, we need to be clear on where our 
own goals lie. Then, and only then, can we work out how to 
permanently end the conflict.

And I am convinced that it can be ended, for good, if our 
political leaders have the guts to take the necessary measures.


A long and bloody history

Personally, I blame Richard the First, by grace of God King of 
England and Wales.

Maybe I'm being a little unfair here; Richard Coeur de Lion 
wasn't a very bright fellow, and the Pope deserves a fairly 
large share of the blame, as do all the other kings, princes, 
nobles and rag-tag of Christendom who, in ten-ninety-something, 
decided to liberate the Holy Land. Except the word they used 
wasn't "liberate" and freedom wasn't on their agenda.
The Crusades were a long, bloody, and unpardonably evil phase in 
European history. They were also largely irrelevant, a sideshow: 
except insofar as they gave rise to two abiding legacies. 
Firstly, they fatally weakened the Eastern Roman Empire, and 
contributed directly to the fall of Constantinople. (This had 
good results as well as ill; the diaspora of classical 
scholarship to western Europe, for example, contributed directly 
to the West's recovery from the barbarism of the dark ages.) But 
secondly, the Crusades left a legacy of hate in the Islamic 
world. Stripped of the mythology of chivalry, the Crusades were 
perceived as barbarian armies attacking the heartland of Islamic 
civilization every generation or so for a period of centuries.
This isn't to say that the forces of Islam were innocent, 
either: both great religions had, in those days, long-standing 
traditions of waging evangelically-inspired holy wars on their 
perceived enemies. Nor were the Crusades the only point of 
contact; the conquest and re-conquest of Spain supplies ample 
evidence of this.
The point I'd like to make here is that the Islamic cultures of 
the middle east have a traditional fear of the western Crusaders 
that is as deeply rooted as the west's fear of Jihad. 

How Lawrence of Arabia screwed up 

Let's fast forward to World War One. The weakened Ottoman Empire 
(Turkey uber alles) made the mistake of allying itself with the 
Central Powers?Germany, the Hapsburg Empire, Italy. In one of 
the more spectacular campaigns of a war noted for its bloody 
stalemate, the British expeditionary forces set the Middle East 
ablaze and marched from Egypt north through Palestine, all the 
way to the gates of Damascus in what today is Syria.
In the process of fighting a world war, the British made a 
number of promises that today we have cause to regret. We'll 
skip the Balfour Declaration, which gave formal backing for a 
Jewish homeland in the territories of trans-Jordanian Palestine. 
What really matters is that the British incited the Arab tribes 
and nations of the region to rebel against their Ottoman rulers. 
In the aftermath of the world war, everything went up for grabs. 
Colonel Lawrence's fanatical Arab allies from the House of Saud 
were given Arabia to rule; the civilized and enlightened former 
rulers of Arabia, the Hashemite monarchy, were unceremonially 
dumped in the fly-blown wastes of Palestine east of the river 
Jordan. Other rebel groups were shored up in palaces around the 
middle east; the kingdoms of Egypt, Persia, Lebanon, and Iraq 
were all established as British imperial puppet states. 
(As an aside: we often forget that when, in the 1980's, Saddam 
Hussein was sending his bombers to drop nerve gas on the marsh 
Arabs of Iraq, he was merely implementing a policy proposed?as a 
means of policing that very area?by Winston Churchill in 1919.) 
In 1945, after a second world war, Britain was essentially 
bankrupt. The United States government, as a matter of global 
policy, leaned on Britain to get rid of the empire; and the 
British post-war government was in no position to refuse. The 
empire had, in any case, outlived its usefulness; it was to be 
replaced by a Commonwealth, which would maintain the general 
trade structure of the empire (with colonies grateful for their 
independence sending their raw materials to the motherland, in 
return for finished goods and engineering products that Britain 
could sell without competition from other developed nations 
outside the institution). One corollary of the decolonisation 
was that Israel, or Palestine, or both, would gain independence. 
And this had implications outside its borders. 
The Israeli War of Independence ran from 1947-48 and was a 
pivotal moment in the history of the Middle East. To the Arab 
world it was a rerun of the eleventh century; a Western crusader 
state had again appeared in their midst, hostile to their 
traditions and religion, claiming ownership of their holy 
places. It was an affront to monarchies who had blithely assumed 
that the new state could be divided up and added to their 
territories, in the same way that Poland was split between 
Prussia, Russia and the Hapsburg empire at the close of the 
eighteenth century. It was an insult to Islam, too, that their 
holy places would be under the thumb of a foreign invader. 
More importantly, the war catalysed the downfall of the puppet 
monarchies. One after another, the kingdoms of Iraq and Egypt 
and Lebanon and Syria fell. Only the Hashemite monarchy in 
Jordan?itself the survivor of seven centuries of court intrigue?
survived. Iran embraced a very shaky constitutional monarchy, 
with a democratically elected government; it was not to last. 
The US State Department, sensing a weakness in the wall around 
their communist enemies in Russia, backed a coup in Iran in 1953 
that put Reza Pahlavi on the peacock throne as a monarch-turned-
dictator. 
The dominant revolutionary ideology in the Muslim world in those 
days was ba'athism?pan-Arab socialism. Ba'athism was 
modernizing, secularizing, but also centralizing and 
totalitarian by instinct. It grew in different directions in 
different countries. In Syria and Egypt it played with 
socialism; in Iraq it remained weak until an internal coup in 
the 1970's bought Saddam's faction to power, at which point 
Iraqi Ba'athism acquired ideological overtones distinctly 
reminiscent of Hitler's Nazi party?with the concept of the "new 
Arab man" dropped neatly into place in the position Hitler 
reserved for his Aryan Germans. 
To sum up, we see a distinct political progression: 
decolonization by the Ottoman empire, recolonization by the 
British. Puppet monarchies installed. Withdrawal of British 
support. Arrival of a "crusader state" in the region. Many 
monarchies fall to the first challenge. Rise of progressive 
nationalist ideologies, mostly socialist. Rise of US influence 
in the area, focussed obsessively on shoring up opposition to 
communism. Wars with Israel, fought over access to water. 
Western focus shifts towards securing the oil supply. Ba'athism 
and the rise of fundamentalism.
The Ba'athist movement was screwed before it even got started; 
socialism was a sure ticket onto the CIA's shit-list, as was any 
attempt to exert unilateral control over their own oil reserves 
or strategic assets such as the Suez canal. Israel could be used 
by the west as a proxy, like a knight on a chess board populated 
only by pawns, to pin them down. 
Arab unification, a cause championed by every Ba'athist 
movement, foundered on the rocks of every Ba'athist leader's 
desire to be leader of the entire Arab world. (Forget about 
Mu'ammar Gadhafi. Gadhafi is the court jester of the Middle 
East, his ideology a mixture of progressive Islamic mysticism 
and second-hand anarcho-syndicalism. He's very much a child of 
the sixties, leader of a nation with a population smaller than 
Belgium and far less significant were it not for the oil 
reserves under his territory.) 
Of course, some Middle Eastern kingdoms survived. The Gulf 
emirates, Kuwait and the House of Saud are the main examples; 
phenomenally rich, so rich that they can buy security no matter 
what the price. But, surrounded by a sea of poor neighbours, 
their political aspirations blocked by external forces, their 
Ba'ath leadership corrupt and totalitarian, they live in fear. 
The failure of Ba'athism?the only genuine Arab political 
ideology?left an ideological vacuum. One-party states are loath 
to accept rival politics; thus, the only outlet for rage, 
disaffection, and desire for change lay in the direction of 
religion. Which leads to a crucial insight: the rise of Islamic 
fundamentalism and its linkage to resentment against the West is 
rooted in the moral bankruptcy of political processes in the 
Middle East.
This bankruptcy is only partially self-inflicted; for example, 
by overthrowing a democracy in Iran in 1953, the CIA struck a 
devastating blow against their own long-term interests. But the 
Ba'ath parties did their best to help prevent any genuinely 
progressive or democratic movements starting in the Middle East, 
and the West either stood aside or looked elsewhere because the 
Ba'ath were, if nothing else, tough on communism.

The mess we're in

This leads us to contemplate our current mess. Over three 
generations, the West has attempted to manipulate the politics 
of the Middle East in support of two goals; anti-communism, and 
cheap oil. The former was accomplished by shoring up repressive 
regimes that cracked down on communism?unfortunately these same 
regimes cracked down on democratic institutions, too. The latter 
was accomplished by using Israel as a catspaw to prevent any 
regional power from gaining too much control over the oil 
reserves. Israel cannot survive if the Arab states unite under 
common leadership; therefore Israel has a vested interest in 
preventing this situation from arising. 
In the midst of the political paralysis of the Ba'ath republics 
and the post-colonial monarchies, radical Islam offers the 
natives of the region their only hope for a creed that calls to 
their interests. It is unfortunately a creed that sees the 
presence of Israel and the Western machinations as signs that a 
crusade against Islam is in progress. 
That Islam has intermittently functioned as a beacon of 
enlightenment?and for many centuries was the most progressive 
and socially liberal religious realm in the world?tends to be 
forgotten by the West today. So, too, does the emphasis on 
certain features obscure the fact that progress can take place 
under Islam. 
Iran, twenty years out of the terror of Khomenei's revolution, 
has acquired democratic institutions far more liberal and 
enlightened than those of any Ba'ath state; indeed, depending on 
the outcome of the current constitutional power struggle in 
Tehran, Iran may become the true birthing ground for democracy 
in the Islamic world. But right now, most people in the Islamic 
world feel disempowered and unrepresented, their leaders corrupt 
tyrants who rule with the gun and the bullwhip at the pleasure 
of their Western masters. They're poor, for the most part poorer 
than the poor who live in the collapsed wreckage of the Soviet 
Union. And this is the perfect situation to breed suicide 
bombers.

How do you want to live tomorrow?

I have a dream. I want to see a world where the people of the 
Middle East are not poverty- stricken dwellers in concrete 
rubble and mud huts. I want to see a world where they have 
democratically accountable governments, a world where all their 
children go to school and then to university, where there are 
two cars in every garage and a chicken in every pot. I want to 
see a Middle East where angry young adults with a political 
point to make think in terms of writing to their elected 
representatives, rather than strapping on bombs and committing 
suicide because that's the only way to make their voice heard. 
People who have freedom and wealth do not make good suicide 
bombers. Go ask the Japanese about it if you don't believe me 
and want a first-hand opinion. In fact, let's dwell on Japan. 
Japan is the perfect model for what I want to see happening to 
the Middle East. Japan's government was taken over by 
militaristic fanatics. They started a near-holy war. They got 
slapped down brutally hard, after they themselves committed 
appalling atrocities in many other countries.
But today ... Japan isn't perfect, but Japan is rich, 
comfortable, largely non-militaristic, overwhelmingly 
embarrassed about the past. Japan is a poster-child for what I'd 
like the Middle East to become, after the war that now looks to 
be inevitable. I want to see a world where the people of the 
Middle East don't see themselves as victims of a savage 
occupation by forces of a hostile evangelical religion bent on 
stripping them of their natural resources and keeping them 
divided. 
And most importantly, I want to see a world where we do not lose 
our most precious liberties in the name of security and 
vigilance against a threat that should never have been allowed 
to materialise in the first place. You can be sure of one thing: 
if the threat of Islamic terrorism isn't defeated, we will lose 
our liberties in the name of security. I assert that the 
terrorism emerges from frustration with the total corruption of 
the political processes of the Middle East. Therefore, to end 
the threat of terrorism we need to fix the political mess, 
reconstruct the economies of the countries in the region, and 
provide the circumstances in which an Islamic equivalent of the 
west's eighteenth century Enlightenment can flourish. Can we get 
there from here? I think we can, but I am not confident that our 
leaders have the will to do so.

An unpalatable prescription

Anyone who thinks that a simple revenge raid will solve anything 
is so utterly misguided it's almost pointless trying to engage 
with them. As I've outlined above, the roots of this mess go 
back too far for any simple nostrum to cure them. Revenge may 
make people feel better for a few hours ... but in the long 
years ahead, it will only make the darkness deeper. The myth of 
the Crusader states must be broken, once and for all; the 
Islamic world needs convincing proof that the West is not bent 
on breaking them to baptism by force. As long as even some of 
them believe that this is a holy war, it will be a holy war. 
But at the same time, they need convincing proof that the West 
is not soft. The West is not going to bend its neck before 
revolutionary fundamentalist Islam. But, from people who take 
Islam for granted with the same fervour that Americans take to 
church, this is going to be a hard-won concession. There's a 
very fine dividing line between a firm response and brutality, 
and the West already has the reputation of being a bully in the 
region. If all that military intervention achieves is to shore 
up that perception, then that use of force is counter-
productive. 
Most importantly, and as a first step that we can take right 
now, we need to understand our own core values and goals, and 
stop funding organisations and individuals who don't share our 
goals. Osama bin Laden got his training and much of his money in 
the 1980's from the CIA. Saddam Hussein bought arms from the 
West at a discount to prosecute his war with the demon du jour, 
Khomenei. The Shah?a brutal, blood soaked tyrant?bought F-14's 
for his air force and Challenger tanks for his army. For how 
much longer are our institutions?the British Foreign Office, the 
US State Department, and others?going to dine with these devils? 
The events of September 11th are almost inevitably going to lead 
to a shooting war. It's too late to avoid that, now. But it's 
time to start thinking right now about what we're going to do 
after the war is won. After the war ... we need to ensure that 
the Islamic world is not further disempowered. 
Disempowerment works at an individual level; remember, the 
Islamic world, like the West, consists of hundreds of millions 
of thinking, feeling, human beings. As in the West, a small but 
significant minority is inclined to address problems with 
violence. Unlike the West, the lack of effective political 
outlets has served to radicalize many who would otherwise be 
content to deal with democratic institutions. Give them other 
outlets, effective and accountable political mechanisms, and 
many of those who currently are driven to violence will find 
more constructive, peaceful outlets. 
But curing disempowerment, and the violence it brings, is only 
part of the solution. To achieve a real permanent settlement, we 
must do nothing short of laying the foundations for an historic 
change in the Islamic world?a change comparable to the Age of 
Enlightenment that swept the Christian world in the eighteenth 
century. 
The Enlightenment was the pivotal moment in the ascent of the 
West. It is the philosophical period from which our current 
cultural values derive; the religious and philosophical 
foundations of liberty, human rights, the legitimization of 
democracy, and republicanism, all have their roots in this 
astonishing and remarkable period. 
Before the Enlightenment, the West was dominated by monarchies, 
deriving their theory of rights from the divine right of kings. 
There was no other legitimate power source other than the 
Church; the alternative to tyranny was theocracy. 
Since the Enlightenment, life in the West has not been a bed of 
roses?but there has always been an alternative to tyranny. 
Christian fundamentalism (or rather, totalitarian 
fundamentalism) is still a besetting problem, but it is not the 
only option. If we can create the preconditions for a free, 
liberal, wealthy, democratic Middle East, and if we can somehow 
break the cycle of hatred and holy war, we may be able to build 
an environment in which more enlightened, liberal politics can 
grow.
If that happens, the risk of a repeat of September 11th 
happening will be vastly reduced. But if we fail to fix the root 
causes of the struggle?the inability of the Moslem world to make 
its voice heard by non-violent means, and the inability of 
people living in that sphere to engage in what we consider to be 
normal political discourse?this incident will come back to haunt 
us. And we stand to lose our own Enlightenment values. Nothing 
undermines civil liberties as brutally as paranoia; if we fail 
to treat the root causes of terrorism, we will lose our rights 
an inch at a time, in the name of collective security. 
This shouldn't be seen as a war against terrorism; rather, it's 
an opportunity to extend to the rest of the world the lessons 
the West learned in the eighteenth century. 


From: An American
To: All
Subject: A Serious Message
Date: Wed Oct 3 17:20:31 2001

Message:
Anyone watching the news today can see the time for JUSTICE has 
drawn very close.  Allied troops and warships are now all in 
position.  CBS news just confirmed what the British media has 
been saying since this morning---massive military strike from 
all sides of Afgan now ready.  CNN is saying sources inside 
military say Bush has already signed order.
Even though the terrorists gave not a thought to the "inocents" 
in the US, I wish to say goodbye and am filled with sadness now 
not only for the USA inocent people dead, but the inocent people 
there nearing death by the hour. Since the Tilbam has cut of all 
phone contact with the outside world, I hope that this message 
gets to those people left inside who will die through other 
means.
All of you yelling at each other on this Board can stop now 
since the course is chosen and Justice will be done shortly.  
The basic fact boils down to one thing----you can not get away 
with attacking the USA in a sneak attack without paying a HEAVY 
price.  History has shown this over and over. 
Let us hope after the destruction and fighting is over a new 
country will reemerge there with values similar to 20 years ago.

From: Andrew R. Brehm
To: Afgan Government
Subject: Osama bin Laden
Date: Wed Oct 3 19:26:32 2001

Message:
To the Afgan Government and its supporters,
The Taliban regime intrinsically lacks the virtues of being an 
American.  If Afgans wanted a fight, then they have to come to 
the right place.  I can't wait for our beloved President Bush to 
make the call because your country deserves to feel the horror 
that was unprovoked and unforgivable
God Bless the USA.
Andrew R. Brehm
abrehm@student.iuk.edu

From: An American
To: All
Subject: Taiban
Date: Wed Oct 3 17:40:38 2001

Message:
The Taiban(spelling?),now with only hours left in Power have 
declared a Holy War(AGAIN).   I have made it a point to study 
the Muslin reglion in the past week and it appears to me, the 
Muslin world should be the ones to put a stop to these people as 
they have totally preverted the Peacefull Muslin religion at 
every turn.  This afternoon, the desperate government declared 
another Holy war aganist the Allies.  As the world unites(all 
reglions including Muslin), let the Holy war BEGAN.   Hopefully 
in the next 24 hours we will see the first strikes. LET THE WAR 
BEGIN!!!

From: John
To: any reader
Subject: PRISON FOR OSAMA - NOT DEATH
Date: Wed Oct 3 20:35:56 2001

Message:
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I, being an American citizen, would like to see the complete and 
total elimination of the Al Quaida, and  ALL  terrorist groups 
worldwide.  The Taliban should be eliminated (in my opinion) not 
for harboring Osama, but for their human rights abuses committed 
against their citizenry.

I have one exception to the total elimination of   I really 
would prefer to see Osama bin Laden not killed, but captured, if 
possible.  I want Osama bin Laden to live through this Jihad and 
witness the failure of his plans.  I want him to witness the 
death to all his Jihad Warriors worldwide.

Osama bin Laden wants to see his dream a reality or to die in 
pursuit of.  He really does believe he leads this Jihad for, and 
in Gods name.  Be assured he is preaching (today) to his 
warriors that death in battle will bring entry to heaven (with 
all those virgins ).

I say, let s not provide Osama his ticket to personal 
satisfaction.  We all know his beliefs are that of a truly sick 
being, but he believes it, so let s not give him even one waking 
moment of satisfaction.

Osama bin Laden should be tried by a United States jury and then 
confined to live within the hole of an American prison.  If we 
execute him, are we absolutely certain there is a hell for this 
man to go to.  ??? Are we absolutely certain hell exists?  Only 
faith provides such assuredness.  Let s provide the hell he 
desperately needs right here on earth.  When he does finally 
die, if there is a hell, he will still have a first class ticket 
for entry.

Would any civil liberty group object?  Probably.  Easily enough 
though, we the American public can silence them.  Whoever the 
public defender is that is appointed to defend and submit 
appeals on bin Laden s behalf, most certainly will probably not 
have Osama s interest at heart.  Complaints of harsh and 
inhumane punishment will fall upon deaf ears.

To be Osama bin Laden in an American jail is a hell I wish upon 
only one man   Osama bin Laden.

From: John
To: any reader
Subject: PRISON FOR OSAMA - NOT DEATH
Date: Wed Oct 3 20:40:44 2001

Message:
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I, being an American citizen, would like to see the complete and 
total elimination of the Al Quaida, and  ALL  terrorist groups 
worldwide.  The Taliban should be eliminated (in my opinion) not 
for harboring Osama, but for their human rights abuses committed 
against their citizenry.

I have one exception to the total elimination of   I really 
would prefer to see Osama bin Laden not killed, but captured, if 
possible.  I want Osama bin Laden to live through this Jihad and 
witness the failure of his plans.  I want him to witness the 
death to all his Jihad Warriors worldwide.

Osama bin Laden wants to see his dream a reality or to die in 
pursuit of.  He really does believe he leads this Jihad for, and 
in Gods name.  Be assured he is preaching (today) to his 
warriors that death in battle will bring entry to heaven (with 
all those virgins ).

I say, let s not provide Osama his ticket to personal 
satisfaction.  We all know his beliefs are that of a truly sick 
being, but he believes it, so let s not give him even one waking 
moment of satisfaction.

Osama bin Laden should be tried by a United States jury and then 
confined to live within the hole of an American prison.  If we 
execute him, are we absolutely certain there is a hell for this 
man to go to.  ??? Are we absolutely certain hell exists?  Only 
faith provides such assuredness.  Let s provide the hell he 
desperately needs right here on earth.  When he does finally 
die, if there is a hell, he will still have a first class ticket 
for entry.

Would any civil liberty group object?  Probably.  Easily enough 
though, we the American public can silence them.  Whoever the 
public defender is that is appointed to defend and submit 
appeals on bin Laden s behalf, most certainly will probably not 
have Osama s interest at heart.  Complaints of harsh and 
inhumane punishment will fall upon deaf ears.

To be Osama bin Laden in an American jail is a hell I wish upon 
only one man   Osama bin Laden.

From: An American Army Veteran
To: The Afgan People
Subject: War, Islam and Freedom
Date: Wed Oct 3 22:14:06 2001

Message:
I find it amasing that the Afgan government is sponsoring this 
forum.  You ought to be commended for providing the citizens of 
the world an island of free speech and commentary.  It is a shame, 
however, that this same freedom to speak out and discuss issues of 
importance is not permitted ordinary Afganis under Talmidan rule, 
who are forbidden to own even televisions, much less computers 
with Internet access.

While it is true that America often presents itself to the world 
as a decidant, capitalistic nation, and that our foreign policy is 
often self-centered and neocolonialistic in nature and designed to 
exploit the peoples of poor countries for cheaply made goods, 
inexpensive raw materials and political advantage, this view does 
not take into account the attitudes of all Americans or America's 
complex, diverse nature.  For there are many hard-working, morally 
straight and pious Americans that support the Islamic people's 
right to self determination and freedom from neocolonialist 
exploitation (such as Iran was subjected to under the reign of the 
Shah), but who strongly oppose the slaughter of innocent Americans 
and foreign nationals by Afgan government-sponsored terorists.

The blood of the 6,000 will be avenged, just as the blood of the 
2,500 who died at Pearl Harbor was also avenged.  An earlier 
writer commented that Americans are good at war, any doubts, just 
ask the Japanese.  Well, I can assure you that this is true, and 
we won't stop until no stone is left unturned in your country or 
until your government steps down and the new government renounces 
terorism.

Just because you defeated the Russians doesn't mean you will beat 
the Americans.  For we are many peoples, and some of us are even 
Muslim!  And the sad thing is that no matter who wins, your 
country will be in ruins when it is over, but America will remain 
intact and proud, for you don't have the resources to attack us 
directly and destroy us, but we could destroy you if we choose 
with a few ICBM missles, and turn your country into a lake for the 
Russians to go fishing for sturgeon for caviar!

I am only glad I am not in your shoes, for we will get our pound 
of flesh and you will get blotted from the earth!

From: An American Army Veteran
To: The Afgan People
Subject: War, Islam and Freedom
Date: Wed Oct 3 22:14:06 2001

Message:
I find it amasing that the Afgan government is sponsoring this 
forum.  You ought to be commended for providing the citizens of 
the world an island of free speech and commentary.  It is a shame, 
however, that this same freedom to speak out and discuss issues of 
importance is not permitted ordinary Afganis under Talmidan rule, 
who are forbidden to own even televisions, much less computers 
with Internet access.

While it is true that America often presents itself to the world 
as a decidant, capitalistic nation, and that our foreign policy is 
often self-centered and neocolonialistic in nature and designed to 
exploit the peoples of poor countries for cheaply made goods, 
inexpensive raw materials and political advantage, this view does 
not take into account the attitudes of all Americans or America's 
complex, diverse nature.  For there are many hard-working, morally 
straight and pious Americans that support the Islamic people's 
right to self determination and freedom from neocolonialist 
exploitation (such as Iran was subjected to under the reign of the 
Shah), but who strongly oppose the slaughter of innocent Americans 
and foreign nationals by Afgan government-sponsored terorists.

The blood of the 6,000 will be avenged, just as the blood of the 
2,500 who died at Pearl Harbor was also avenged.  An earlier 
writer commented that Americans are good at war, any doubts, just 
ask the Japanese.  Well, I can assure you that this is true, and 
we won't stop until no stone is left unturned in your country or 
until your government steps down and the new government renounces 
terorism.

Just because you defeated the Russians doesn't mean you will beat 
the Americans.  For we are many peoples, and some of us are even 
Muslim!  And the sad thing is that no matter who wins, your 
country will be in ruins when it is over, but America will remain 
intact and proud, for you don't have the resources to attack us 
directly and destroy us, but we could destroy you if we choose 
with a few ICBM missles, and turn your country into a lake for the 
Russians to go fishing for sturgeon for caviar!

I am only glad I am not in your shoes, for we will get our pound 
of flesh and you will get blotted from the earth!

From: an Italian guy
To: the nameless poet above
Date: Thu Oct 4 02:14:31 2001

Message:
I just wonder who was capable to compose such a poem in a so 
short time, since 9-11.... 
Anyway, I agree with you but for one thing. I don't believe the 
problem of man is the loss of instinct... I think it's rather 
the lack of rationality. 
Presently, many (ignorant, mostly) people in the world uses 
their "human superior brain" for finding the way to justify 
their human badness.

From: an Italian guy
To: John
Subject: my opinion
Date: Thu Oct 4 02:44:15 2001

Message:
I think osama bin laden should better first see the failure of 
his jihad, and then die on the chair.

From: Holland/Italy
To: An Italian Guy
Subject: Poem
Date: Thu Oct 4 02:47:53 2001

Message:
Just ask, and I will answer you..
Even though I don't have the presumption to call this a poem, 
but more a "filastrocca", I addressed it to you because you seem 
sincerely upset about the tremendous things which happened, just 
like I am. Besides you are Italian and I live in Italy.
By the way, it took me about 4 hours to make it, last sunday 
morning. 

From: Holland/Italy
To: An Italian guy
Subject: extra
Date: Thu Oct 4 04:17:08 2001

Message:
I just want to add a little thing to my earlier messsage:
I meant that maybe animals really are superior to human beings, 
when things like these happen. Animals may be dangerous 
sometimes, but they never are evil.
Besides, we tell ourselves that we have a "superior brain", but 
maybe having an animal instinct would have been more useful for 
seeing things ahead of time.
We don't respect our fellow humans, let alone nature, we can 
only respect our stupid little books which WE wrote to OUR 
advantage, like the bible, the qur-an, the book of mormons, the 
bhagavad-gita, the little red book the little green book etc. 
etc. Mind you, I have all these books at my home, but find no 
interest in them anymore.

From: A Friend
To: All
Subject: Justice
Date: Thu Oct 4 04:31:31 2001

Message:
How about a trial w/ 6 men & 6 WOMEN, and a WOMAN Judge?
Bet he'd love that!

From: The World
To: America
Subject: At least "Act" Human
Date: Thu Oct 4 05:11:02 2001

Message:
First of all, I would like to say that I condemn the attacks in 
the U.S. very strongly and I hope that whoever is responsible is 
brought to justice. I want to point out a few things that I 
think are important and vital to this message board. Please bare 
with me:

1. All Afghans are not Taliban (in fact if I had a gun in my 
hands I'd shoot every Talib in sight just to free Afghanistan 
from their rule, until death does me part from this world).

2. 1,500 of the 6,000 people that died in the WTC were muslims. 
If some of you know how to do your math, that is 1/4th of the 
total that died. That's an aweful lot of dead Muslims. Why would 
any of you accuse "muslims" as the prime suspects of every 
terrorist act in the world? Maybe we should use McVeigh as a 
symbol instead and say that Americans are the real terrorists, 
what do you think? Just remember that not all the people that 
don't look Anglo-Saxon to you are the ones at fault.

3. Why can't humans just get along? Animals have a much better 
system of survival amongst each other than we do.

Anyway, just my two cents worth. Thanks...

From: an Italian guy
To: "the world"
Subject: what???
Date: Thu Oct 4 06:11:57 2001

Message:
What, americans are the "real" terrorists?? Do you reason like 
john/good thinker?

From: An America
To: The Jerk Who Said the WTC Attack Victims Got What They Deserved
Subject: You Disgust Me
Date: Thu Oct 4 06:34:44 2001

Message:
People going to work.  Going about their own individual way of 
life.  People working and patroning those doomed airplanes. 
Children passengers on those doomed flights. Ordinary people.  
Not fanatics. Not evil doers. VICTIMS.

I am repulsed by your praise to what happened to all those 
people. You cannot deny what you stated; it oozes from every 
vile sylable you typed.  You openly approve of the mass murder 
of thousands of American individuals, to the widows and widowers 
it created as a result.  To the unborn child who will never know 
its murdered father; to the child too young to have a conscience 
memory of its murdered mother. To the children forever lost. Of 
this you justify; of this you approve.

This atocity goes way beyond the bounds of politics.  It has 
directly, with malice and intent, attacked and enraged the 
American people.  Excuse me, but we don't want to sit idly by 
while they openly attack our country. While they kill our 
brothers and sisters, husbands and wives.  While they kill our 
children.

I will dispair in the loss of one bullet fired in order to 
protect you and your twisted mind.  I will, however, rejoice 
with the implementation of many bullets fired to dessimate 
everyone who participated, in any way, shape or form, the mass 
murder of innocent people.  Be aware that these "people" are 
here in the U.S.  They would not blink before slaughtering you, 
either. They are kind to you in face, but they laugh at your 
stupidity silently.  They laugh at the demise of this country 
and everyone who lives here, you included.

You are no American; you are the worst form of infection.

You disgust me.





From: Ashraf
To: An American & Proud American Above
Subject: Both your articles above
Date: Thu Oct 4 07:00:48 2001

Message:
Ashraf@UAEDesertSafari.com

Thank you for your responses above. It is heart chilling to see 
that there are still quite a few people out ther who are 
sensible enough not to let their anger affect the way they view 
religion, Arabs, Muslims and Islam in particular.

No-one wants war, we all want peace, except that eachone of us 
expresses this desire in their own way. Not to worry, I 
understand that, and therefore, I was not offended by many 
articles posted here up on this sight. 

Thank you once again...

Peace..

From: Sexy American Blondy
To: Ashraf
Subject: Why Dont you...
Date: Thu Oct 4 08:44:30 2001

Message:
Why dont u forget about politics, and give me a ride on that 
cool bike of yours that you have up on ur site..?? It is your, 
right?

You look cute!!

Kiss kiss 

;)

From: Survey Taker
To: Everyone
Subject: Who Reads What?
Date: Thu Oct 4 11:48:48 2001

Message:
1. The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who run the 
country.
2. The New York Times is read by people who think they run the 
country.
3. The Washington Post is read by people who think they ought to 
run 
the country.
4. USA Today is read by people who think they ought to run the 
country but don't understand the Washington Post.
5. The Los Angeles Times is read by people who wouldn't mind 
running 
the country, if they could spare the time.
6. The Boston Globe is read by people whose parents used to run 
the country.
7. The New York Daily News is read by people who aren't too sure 
who's running the country.
8. The New York Post is read by people who don't care who's 
running 
the country, as long as they do something scandalous.
9. The San Francisco Chronicle is read by people who aren't sure 
there is a country, or that anyone is running it.
10. The Miami Herald is read by people who are running another 
country.

From: America
To: Afghanistan a**holes
Subject: get ready
Date: Thu Oct 4 12:20:24 2001

Message:
The time has come for the US to act.  You afghans think you can 
actually win this.  We are going to rip out your guts and use 
them to oil the tracks of our tanks.  

All this BS about our foreign policy started this is crazy.  We 
believe that people man or woman should have the right to live 
free and practice the religion they want.  We do not kill people 
for putting on make-up or wanting an education.  You screw  
balls are the ones who are the devils in the world.  I 
personally hope that you all get what is coming to  you and that 
the next weather forecast for Afgahnaistan and also the mid east 
is about 1000 degrees F after we're through.  The world would be 
a safer place.  

From: Democratus
To: Whoever Wants to Know
Subject: On America
Date: Thu Oct 4 12:07:53 2001

Message:
Mr. Bin Laden and his friends in the Talaban are about to get a 
history lesson.  They are going to learn what every enemy of 
Ameica learns in good time.

In 1941 the Japanese government thought that if they could take 
on the American Fleet and destroy it the United States, rather 
than giving up its luxuries, its easy life  would find its way 
to the peace table and sensibly negoitate peace.

Four days later Adolf Hitler, sure that such a mongrolized 
people as the Americans could not cope with war on a global 
scale, could do no harm to his Vaterlund  declared war on us.

Take a look at the pictures of Berlin and Tokyo in the late 
summer of 1945.  Keep in mind that those cities were only 
attacked wiht conventional weapons.

While it is  quite true that Afghanistan is blessed with rugged 
terrain, strewn with mountains and caves, and its people fought 
off the entire Russian Army, but the United States is not 
interested in conquering territory.

Our only interest is to find the men who planned the dastardly 
attack on women and children and either put them in cages or 
make them very very dead.

Anger passes quickly.  But anger is only the larva state of 
something that Talaban should think about.  Resolve!  For  the 
first time in more  than a generation, Americans are united and 
filled with a reslove to find and punish the enemy.

The enemy is not the people of Afghanistan, nor is it millions 
of Muslims around the world.  The enemy are those few who 
profane the Word of God and ignore the words of the Prophet.

We will find those men.  We will kill them.  They cannot hide.   
Those men  will find, when it is too late that they are not the 
Blessed of God but rather the Dammed.  They will find fire in 
this life and fire in the next life.  Think about that' oh you 
men of evil.  Keep that reality in your minds as you wait for 
the end that is inevitable.

The United States will not be pushed by anyone.  We respect 
other peoples and different cultures.  Our own culture is a 
conglomeration of all the peoples and cultures of the world, but 
nobody, ever, dictates to us, orders, us or intimidates.

Even as I draft these words, you evil men are being targeted.  
People are coming for you and will come at you until you are 
either in their hands of gone from the earth.

From: Democratus
To: Whoever Wants to Know
Subject: On America
Date: Thu Oct 4 12:07:53 2001

Message:
Mr. Bin Laden and his friends in the Talaban are about to get a 
history lesson.  They are going to learn what every enemy of 
Ameica learns in good time.

In 1941 the Japanese government thought that if they could take 
on the American Fleet and destroy it the United States, rather 
than giving up its luxuries, its easy life  would find its way 
to the peace table and sensibly negoitate peace.

Four days later Adolf Hitler, sure that such a mongrolized 
people as the Americans could not cope with war on a global 
scale, could do no harm to his Vaterlund  declared war on us.

Take a look at the pictures of Berlin and Tokyo in the late 
summer of 1945.  Keep in mind that those cities were only 
attacked wiht conventional weapons.

While it is  quite true that Afghanistan is blessed with rugged 
terrain, strewn with mountains and caves, and its people fought 
off the entire Russian Army, but the United States is not 
interested in conquering territory.

Our only interest is to find the men who planned the dastardly 
attack on women and children and either put them in cages or 
make them very very dead.

Anger passes quickly.  But anger is only the larva state of 
something that Talaban should think about.  Resolve!  For  the 
first time in more  than a generation, Americans are united and 
filled with a reslove to find and punish the enemy.

The enemy is not the people of Afghanistan, nor is it millions 
of Muslims around the world.  The enemy are those few who 
profane the Word of God and ignore the words of the Prophet.

We will find those men.  We will kill them.  They cannot hide.   
Those men  will find, when it is too late that they are not the 
Blessed of God but rather the Dammed.  They will find fire in 
this life and fire in the next life.  Think about that' oh you 
men of evil.  Keep that reality in your minds as you wait for 
the end that is inevitable.

The United States will not be pushed by anyone.  We respect 
other peoples and different cultures.  Our own culture is a 
conglomeration of all the peoples and cultures of the world, but 
nobody, ever, dictates to us, orders, us or intimidates.

Even as I draft these words, you evil men are being targeted.  
People are coming for you and will come at you until you are 
either in their hands of gone from the earth.

From: Democratus
To: Whoever Wants to Know
Subject: On America
Date: Thu Oct 4 12:07:53 2001

Message:
Mr. Bin Laden and his friends in the Talaban are about to get a 
history lesson.  They are going to learn what every enemy of 
Ameica learns in good time.

In 1941 the Japanese government thought that if they could take 
on the American Fleet and destroy it the United States, rather 
than giving up its luxuries, its easy life  would find its way 
to the peace table and sensibly negoitate peace.

Four days later Adolf Hitler, sure that such a mongrolized 
people as the Americans could not cope with war on a global 
scale, could do no harm to his Vaterlund  declared war on us.

Take a look at the pictures of Berlin and Tokyo in the late 
summer of 1945.  Keep in mind that those cities were only 
attacked wiht conventional weapons.

While it is  quite true that Afghanistan is blessed with rugged 
terrain, strewn with mountains and caves, and its people fought 
off the entire Russian Army, but the United States is not 
interested in conquering territory.

Our only interest is to find the men who planned the dastardly 
attack on women and children and either put them in cages or 
make them very very dead.

Anger passes quickly.  But anger is only the larva state of 
something that Talaban should think about.  Resolve!  For  the 
first time in more  than a generation, Americans are united and 
filled with a reslove to find and punish the enemy.

The enemy is not the people of Afghanistan, nor is it millions 
of Muslims around the world.  The enemy are those few who 
profane the Word of God and ignore the words of the Prophet.

We will find those men.  We will kill them.  They cannot hide.   
Those men  will find, when it is too late that they are not the 
Blessed of God but rather the Dammed.  They will find fire in 
this life and fire in the next life.  Think about that' oh you 
men of evil.  Keep that reality in your minds as you wait for 
the end that is inevitable.

The United States will not be pushed by anyone.  We respect 
other peoples and different cultures.  Our own culture is a 
conglomeration of all the peoples and cultures of the world, but 
nobody, ever, dictates to us, orders, us or intimidates.

Even as I draft these words, you evil men are being targeted.  
People are coming for you and will come at you until you are 
either in their hands of gone from the earth.

From: mbw49
To: the world
Subject: this mess we're in
Date: Thu Oct 4 14:59:58 2001

Message:
I'm a loyal American, but I'm also a Christian.  And I'm also a 
human being who's watching an event unfold that will change 
history forever.  The thing we all keep forgetting here is that 
Islam to my understanding does not support violence.  Over the 
centuries religious sects have broken off and caused damage to 
the mainstream religion.  Even the Christian faith suffered many 
breakoffs in the early years.  I have to support the US because 
it's my home and what Bin Laden did was wrong.  we need to work 
together as a team against a gang of criminals.  This is the 
same mentality of the criminal gangs worldwide.  Blaming a whole 
people as some of the people who have written here makes me glad 
they are not in Congress.  This whole sequence of events seems 
to point to a direction that is going backwards in the terms of 
worldwide cooperation instead of forwards.  I don't know if you 
agree and I'm sure my comments will raise some eyebrows.  But 
God will NOT step in to stop anything and he is NOT a violent 
God.  This is just the opinion of someone is disabled and is 
very tired of watching people find all kinds of ways to destroy 
each other.  The world of Star Trek is an impossiblity when we 
can't even get along and see that these people are simply trying 
to turn the whole world on itself and its people against each 
other.  Thank you for for the message space.  I hope things 
don't turn out as I see them.

From:
To: mbw49
Subject: this mess we're in
Date: Thu Oct 4 18:24:21 2001

Message:
Then tell the Muslims who are good to give up the bad ones.  
Now, do you REALLY think it's going to happen?  

Now, I suppose Pakistan is filled with good Muslims, and Iran, 
and Iraq, etc. ..gee....why do all of these "good" Muslims allow 
their Muslim brothers and sisters to be treated like dogs in 
Afghanistan?  Why don't they have democracies?  Why don't they 
keep each other in check?  Which ones are good and which ones 
are bad?  Can YOU tell by looking?  I can't.

From:
To:
Date: Thu Oct 4 19:34:57 2001

Message:
IT's ALL ABOUT OIL AND BOOMING THE ECONOMY!!   
                                   9-18-1
THe oil pipe line would run under afghanistan and it would come 
from the Caspian sea."The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 
790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road THROUGH AFGHANISTAN
(emphasis added
     -ed), cross the Pakistan border in the vicinity
of Quetta, and terminate in
     Multan, Pakistan, where it will tie into an
existing pipeline system."

     Hi PEOPLE ,

     They say follow the money. Well, here's the money
trail.

     Everyone from Hitler on down has wanted the
Caspian Sea oil and with
     the fall of communism, the international bankers
finally got some control
     over this resource. The problem is that to get
this oil to the West requires
     a pipeline that would have to go through
Tajikistan, Afghanistan and
     Pakistan. But the fundamentalist Muslim
governments of this places
     won't play ball so...they get another agent like
Ho Chi Minh, in this case
     Osama bin-Laden, who was funded and encouraged by
our CIA to fight
     the Russians in Afghanistan, to be the Bugagoo,
either by instigation or
     merely by allowing his attacks. Then, in the
ensuing unthinking surge of
     patriotism, either US troops or a UN coalition
moves into the area to
     wipe out the "terrorists" and install
"democratically aligned" governments
     and, bingo, the obstacles to the Central Asia
Pipeline disappear and the
     profit line is increased at only the cost of
several thousand human lives,
     unfortunate but necessary in this age of
overpopulation. It's a grander
     replay of the Gulf War but it's still about oil,
a commodity dear to the
     heart of the Bush family.

     Consortium Formed To Build Central Asia Gas
Pipeline

     October 27, 1997

     ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan, - Six international
companies and the
     Government of Turkmenistan formed Central Asia
Gas Pipeline, Ltd.
     (CentGas) in formal signing ceremonies here
Saturday. The group is
     developing a project to build a 790-mile
(1,271-kilometer) pipeline to link
     Turkmenistan's abundant proven natural gas
reserves with growing
     markets in Pakistan. The group is also
considering an extension of the
     line to the New Delhi area in India.

     "This is a truly significant step in the
development of this project," said
     John F. Imle, Jr., president of Unocal
Corporation . Unocal was
     appointed by the Government of Turkmenistan to
lead the project
     development activities and form the gas pipeline
consortium. A Unocal
     subsidiary will serve as development manager for
CentGas. "The interest
     shown by major international companies
underscores both the
     attractiveness of the proposed pipeline and the
significant economic
     benefits it can bring to the region. This project
could be the foundation
     for a new commerce corridor for the region --
often referred to as the
     Silk Road for the 21st century.

     The CentGas consortium will initially include the
following companies,
     either directly or through affiliates: Unocal
Corporation, 46.5 percent;
     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent; the Government
     of Turkmenistan, 7 percent; Indonesia Petroleum,
LTD. (INPEX)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co.,
Ltd. (CIECO)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; Hyundai Engineering &
Construction Co., Ltd.
     (Korea), 5 percent; and the Crescent Group
(Pakistan), 3.5 percent. RAO
     Gazprom (Russia) has indicated an interest in
signing the consortium
     agreements formalizing a 10 percent share in the
project in the near
     future.

     The proposed pipeline will carry natural gas from
the Dauletabad Field, in
     southeastern Turkmenistan at a rate of up to 2
billion cubic feet per day
     (20 billion cubic meters per year). The
Dauletabad Field has
     independently certified reserves of more then 25
trillion cubic feet (708
     billion cubic meters). The Government of
Turkmenistan has guaranteed
     deliverability of 25 trillion cubic feet (708
billion cubic meters) of natural
     gas exclusively for the Central Asia Gas
Pipeline. Much or all of this gas
     is expected to come from the Dauletabad Field.

     The inaugural memorandum of understanding between
the governments
     of Turkmenistan and Pakistan for the CentGas
project was signed in
     March 1995.

     "The formation of the consortium is another major
milestone achieved in
     accordance with the requirements of protocols and
agreements previously
     signed with the Governments of Turkmenistan and
Pakistan," said Marty
     Miller, Unocal Corporation vice president
responsible for new ventures in
     Central Asia and Pakistan.

     Miller pointed out that the project still faces
significant economic, political
     and commercial challenges, such as finalizing
mutually acceptable
     commercial agreements and agreements with transit
countries. "This
     project has exceptionally sound economic
fundamentals, given the
     presence of proven gas reserves in Turkmenistan
and the market needs
     of Pakistan and India. The Dauletabad Field has
produced well over 2
     billion cubic feet per day in the past and is
capable of producing that
     volume today. With the right development program,
the Field will
     continue to be able to produce natural gas at
this rate long into the future.
     No other import project can provide such volumes
of natural gas to these
     markets at a lower price."

     The proposed natural gas pipeline would stretch
from the
     Turkmenistan/Afghanistan border in southeastern
Turkmenistan to
     Multan, Pakistan (790 miles, 1,271 kilometers),
with a 400-mile
     (640-kilometer) extension to India under
consideration. Estimated cost of
     the project is US$1.9 billion for the segment to
Pakistan and an additional
     US$600 million for the extension to India. This
news release contains
     forward-looking information, including
projections of future business
     plans and potential capital expenditures. Actual
results could differ
     materially from these projections.

     CentGas Consortium Members:

     Unocal Corporation (U.S.), 46.5 percent

     Founded over 100 years ago, Unocal is one of the
world's leading energy
     resource and project development companies
providing regional
     integrated energy solutions. Unocal has reserves
of more than 9.8 trillion
     cubic feet of natural gas equivalent (1.6 billion
barrels of oil equivalent)
     and major oil and gas production activities in
Asia and the U.S. Gulf of
     Mexico.

     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent

     Delta Oil Company Limited, a private Saudi-owned
company, was
     founded by its Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer, Mr. Badr M.
     Al-Aiban. Mr. Al-Aiban established the original
Delta entity in Saudi
     Arabia in 1978, and its activities have expanded
significantly since its
     inception. Today, Delta and its affiliates
comprise a diversified group of
     companies involved in the energy industry, real
estate development, food
     processing and packaging, soft drink bottling and
distribution, agriculture
     and manufacturing. The company's operations
extend to Central Asia,
     South East Asia and other countries in the Middle
East. Delta has
     developed a number of strategic alliances in the
oil and gas industry. As a
     member of the Azerbaijan International Operating
Company (AIOC) and
     the North Absheron Operating Company Limited
(NAOC), Delta and its
     affiliates are involved in exploring and
developing oil fields in Azerbaijan,
     as well as other Central Asian countries.

     The Government of Turkmenistan, 7 percent

     Since declaring its independence from the USSR on
October 27, 1991,
     Turkmenistan has looked forward to increasing the
economic strength of
     the new state. The country has strived to build
on its traditions, values
     and history to form a political and economic
system capable of increasing
     the well-being of its people, and strengthening
the sovereignty of
     Turkmenistan. The leadership of Turkmenistan has
met the challenge of
     reform head on, and has established many channels
for swift economic
     development. As an independent state,
Turkmenistan has much to offer
     to the Central Asian region and the international
community. By
     effectively using its natural resources,
continuing on a path of economic
     reform as can be seen in the agricultural
industry, and promoting its
     economic potential to attract foreign investment,
Turkmenistan can be
     assured of decades of successful economic growth.
The government
     believes that by seeking international
investment, technological and
     management support for its country, Turkmenistan
can play a major role
     as the economic catalyst for the Central Asian
region, and join the world
     leaders in the distribution of oil and gas.

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX) (Japan), 6.5
percent

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX), a Tokyo-based
company, has
     been engaged in the exploration and development
of petroleum resources,
     mainly in Indonesia, since 1966 in order to
ensure a continued stable
     supply of energy resources to Japan. With its
core activity area in
     Indonesia, INPEX is expanding its activities in
East Asia, Oceania, CIS,
     the Middle East and Africa. INPEX and its
subsidiaries are currently
     producing 280,000 BOEPD equity oil and gas in
Indonesia, Australia and
     UAE.

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) (Japan),
6.5 percent

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) was
formed in 1972 and is
     now involved in the exploration, development and
production of
     hydrocarbons in Indonesia, U.K. North Sea,
Australia, Pakistan, CIS
     Countries, Yemen, Oman and Gabon. CIECO is the
core company
     responsible for all Hydrocarbon Exploration and
Production activities
     within the subsidiaries and associates of ITOCHU
Corporation, the
     largest trading company in Japan. With maximum
utilization to
     ITOCHU's worldwide network, CIECO is well placed
to continue to
     expand its foreign activities in the future.

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd.
(Korea), 5 percent

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd. was
established in 1947,
     and its major role was rebuilding Korea's
infrastructure. Growing rapidly
     during the early 1960s, Hyundai built dams,
bridges, buildings and
     tunnels, as well as industrial plants that were
desperately needed. Since it
     launched into the international market in 1968,
Hyundai has taken a place
     among top global general contractors, with
approximately US$32 billion
     construction orders through 1996. As the core
company of Hyundai
     Business Group, Hyundai has set the pace for the
Hyundai Business
     Group which is now a US$87 billion multi-national
conglomerate
     specializing in engineering and construction,
automobiles, shipbuilding,
     robotics, electronics, petrochemicals, aerospace
and trading.

     The Crescent Group (Pakistan), 3.5 percent

     The Crescent Group, in business for more than 50
years, is the premier
     industrial and financial conglomerate in
Pakistan. More than 35
     independent companies operating across Pakistan
form the nucleus of the
     group and are leaders in textiles, jute, sugar,
engineering, steel,
     investment banking, insurance, leasing and
software development. The
     Crescent Group employs over 15,000 people and
contributes to one
     percent of GNP of the country and over two
percent of market
     capitalization of Pakistan. Strategic alliances
have helped position the
     Crescent Group as a leader in its core
businesses, such as textile and
     textile made-ups. Crescent is in partnership with
some of the most
     well-known corporations from the United States
and Europe. The Group
     puts heavy emphasis on keeping its projects
environment-friendly,
     promotes education, and spends considerably on
the development of
     human talent in safe working conditions.

     Project Overview

     International Pipeline Consortium

     Six international companies and the Government of
Turkmenistan are
     forming an international pipeline consortium,
Central Asia Gas Pipeline,
     Ltd. (CentGas) to develop a natural gas pipeline
that will link
     Turkmenistan's vast natural gas reserves with the
growing markets of
     Pakistan and possibly India. This major new
source of fuel will
     supplement indigenous natural gas supply. An
efficient, clean-burning
     fuel, natural gas can be economically and safely
transported by pipeline
     over long distances, and priced competitively
with alternate fuels.

     The Resource

     Dauletabad Field is one of the largest gas fields
in the world. DeGolyer &
     MacNaughton, an internationally recognized
petroleum engineering firm,
     has thoroughly evaluated the field's reserves.
These evaluations clearly
     show that the field's resources are adequate for
project needs, assuming
     production rates of roughly 1.5 billion cubic
feet of gas per day (15 billion
     cubic meters of gas per year) for 30 years or
more. The Government of
     Turkmenistan has guaranteed deliverability of 25
trillion cubic feet (709
     billion cubic meters) of natural gas exclusively
for this project. Much or
     all of this gas is expected to come from the
Dauletabad Field.

     The Market

     Forecasts based on reasonable gas purchase, sales
price and other
     assumptions show sufficient demand for the
imported gas at prices that
     support the project's economic viability. Market
analyses indicate that
     Pakistan's electric power generation market will
be the main consumer of
     the imported gas.

     The Route

     The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road through Afghanistan, cross
the Pakistan border
     in the vicinity of Quetta, and terminate in
Multan, Pakistan, where it will
     tie into an existing pipeline system.
Turkmenistan will construct a pipeline
     that will link with the CentGas line at the
border and stretch
     approximately 105 miles (169 kilometers) to the
Dauletabad Field. A
     potential 400-mile (644-kilometer) extension from
Multan to New Delhi
     also is under consideration. Estimated cost of
the project is US$1.9 billion
     for the segment to Pakistan, and an additional
US$600 million for the
     extension to India.

     Inter-Government Support

     The project enjoys strong support from the
governments and leadership
     of the three countries directly involved and has
also attracted the interest
     of other countries. Turkmenistan and Pakistan
have demonstrated
     inter-government support through various
memorandums of
     understanding.

     Regional Benefits

     The project offers numerous long- and short-term
benefits to the region.
     It will link plentiful supplies of clean-burning
natural gas with growing
     regional markets, employ thousands of local
people, foster regional
     cooperation, and enhance trade, transportation
and communication. The
     development of pipeline-related infrastructure
also will create
     opportunities for economic growth in other
industries. In addition to
     regional advantages, the pipeline offers specific
benefits to the countries
     involved. Turkmenistan will reach new markets
with its plentiful gas
     reserves, while Pakistan gains a reliable source
of clean-burning fuel to
     drive its economic growth. Afghanistan will earn
extensive economic
     benefits from the pipeline, both during
construction and over the life of
     the project.

     Source: Central Asia Gas Pipeline, Ltd.


From:
To:
Date: Thu Oct 4 19:34:57 2001

Message:
IT's ALL ABOUT OIL AND BOOMING THE ECONOMY!!   
                                   9-18-1
THe oil pipe line would run under afghanistan and it would come 
from the Caspian sea."The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 
790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road THROUGH AFGHANISTAN
(emphasis added
     -ed), cross the Pakistan border in the vicinity
of Quetta, and terminate in
     Multan, Pakistan, where it will tie into an
existing pipeline system."

     Hi PEOPLE ,

     They say follow the money. Well, here's the money
trail.

     Everyone from Hitler on down has wanted the
Caspian Sea oil and with
     the fall of communism, the international bankers
finally got some control
     over this resource. The problem is that to get
this oil to the West requires
     a pipeline that would have to go through
Tajikistan, Afghanistan and
     Pakistan. But the fundamentalist Muslim
governments of this places
     won't play ball so...they get another agent like
Ho Chi Minh, in this case
     Osama bin-Laden, who was funded and encouraged by
our CIA to fight
     the Russians in Afghanistan, to be the Bugagoo,
either by instigation or
     merely by allowing his attacks. Then, in the
ensuing unthinking surge of
     patriotism, either US troops or a UN coalition
moves into the area to
     wipe out the "terrorists" and install
"democratically aligned" governments
     and, bingo, the obstacles to the Central Asia
Pipeline disappear and the
     profit line is increased at only the cost of
several thousand human lives,
     unfortunate but necessary in this age of
overpopulation. It's a grander
     replay of the Gulf War but it's still about oil,
a commodity dear to the
     heart of the Bush family.

     Consortium Formed To Build Central Asia Gas
Pipeline

     October 27, 1997

     ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan, - Six international
companies and the
     Government of Turkmenistan formed Central Asia
Gas Pipeline, Ltd.
     (CentGas) in formal signing ceremonies here
Saturday. The group is
     developing a project to build a 790-mile
(1,271-kilometer) pipeline to link
     Turkmenistan's abundant proven natural gas
reserves with growing
     markets in Pakistan. The group is also
considering an extension of the
     line to the New Delhi area in India.

     "This is a truly significant step in the
development of this project," said
     John F. Imle, Jr., president of Unocal
Corporation . Unocal was
     appointed by the Government of Turkmenistan to
lead the project
     development activities and form the gas pipeline
consortium. A Unocal
     subsidiary will serve as development manager for
CentGas. "The interest
     shown by major international companies
underscores both the
     attractiveness of the proposed pipeline and the
significant economic
     benefits it can bring to the region. This project
could be the foundation
     for a new commerce corridor for the region --
often referred to as the
     Silk Road for the 21st century.

     The CentGas consortium will initially include the
following companies,
     either directly or through affiliates: Unocal
Corporation, 46.5 percent;
     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent; the Government
     of Turkmenistan, 7 percent; Indonesia Petroleum,
LTD. (INPEX)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co.,
Ltd. (CIECO)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; Hyundai Engineering &
Construction Co., Ltd.
     (Korea), 5 percent; and the Crescent Group
(Pakistan), 3.5 percent. RAO
     Gazprom (Russia) has indicated an interest in
signing the consortium
     agreements formalizing a 10 percent share in the
project in the near
     future.

     The proposed pipeline will carry natural gas from
the Dauletabad Field, in
     southeastern Turkmenistan at a rate of up to 2
billion cubic feet per day
     (20 billion cubic meters per year). The
Dauletabad Field has
     independently certified reserves of more then 25
trillion cubic feet (708
     billion cubic meters). The Government of
Turkmenistan has guaranteed
     deliverability of 25 trillion cubic feet (708
billion cubic meters) of natural
     gas exclusively for the Central Asia Gas
Pipeline. Much or all of this gas
     is expected to come from the Dauletabad Field.

     The inaugural memorandum of understanding between
the governments
     of Turkmenistan and Pakistan for the CentGas
project was signed in
     March 1995.

     "The formation of the consortium is another major
milestone achieved in
     accordance with the requirements of protocols and
agreements previously
     signed with the Governments of Turkmenistan and
Pakistan," said Marty
     Miller, Unocal Corporation vice president
responsible for new ventures in
     Central Asia and Pakistan.

     Miller pointed out that the project still faces
significant economic, political
     and commercial challenges, such as finalizing
mutually acceptable
     commercial agreements and agreements with transit
countries. "This
     project has exceptionally sound economic
fundamentals, given the
     presence of proven gas reserves in Turkmenistan
and the market needs
     of Pakistan and India. The Dauletabad Field has
produced well over 2
     billion cubic feet per day in the past and is
capable of producing that
     volume today. With the right development program,
the Field will
     continue to be able to produce natural gas at
this rate long into the future.
     No other import project can provide such volumes
of natural gas to these
     markets at a lower price."

     The proposed natural gas pipeline would stretch
from the
     Turkmenistan/Afghanistan border in southeastern
Turkmenistan to
     Multan, Pakistan (790 miles, 1,271 kilometers),
with a 400-mile
     (640-kilometer) extension to India under
consideration. Estimated cost of
     the project is US$1.9 billion for the segment to
Pakistan and an additional
     US$600 million for the extension to India. This
news release contains
     forward-looking information, including
projections of future business
     plans and potential capital expenditures. Actual
results could differ
     materially from these projections.

     CentGas Consortium Members:

     Unocal Corporation (U.S.), 46.5 percent

     Founded over 100 years ago, Unocal is one of the
world's leading energy
     resource and project development companies
providing regional
     integrated energy solutions. Unocal has reserves
of more than 9.8 trillion
     cubic feet of natural gas equivalent (1.6 billion
barrels of oil equivalent)
     and major oil and gas production activities in
Asia and the U.S. Gulf of
     Mexico.

     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent

     Delta Oil Company Limited, a private Saudi-owned
company, was
     founded by its Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer, Mr. Badr M.
     Al-Aiban. Mr. Al-Aiban established the original
Delta entity in Saudi
     Arabia in 1978, and its activities have expanded
significantly since its
     inception. Today, Delta and its affiliates
comprise a diversified group of
     companies involved in the energy industry, real
estate development, food
     processing and packaging, soft drink bottling and
distribution, agriculture
     and manufacturing. The company's operations
extend to Central Asia,
     South East Asia and other countries in the Middle
East. Delta has
     developed a number of strategic alliances in the
oil and gas industry. As a
     member of the Azerbaijan International Operating
Company (AIOC) and
     the North Absheron Operating Company Limited
(NAOC), Delta and its
     affiliates are involved in exploring and
developing oil fields in Azerbaijan,
     as well as other Central Asian countries.

     The Government of Turkmenistan, 7 percent

     Since declaring its independence from the USSR on
October 27, 1991,
     Turkmenistan has looked forward to increasing the
economic strength of
     the new state. The country has strived to build
on its traditions, values
     and history to form a political and economic
system capable of increasing
     the well-being of its people, and strengthening
the sovereignty of
     Turkmenistan. The leadership of Turkmenistan has
met the challenge of
     reform head on, and has established many channels
for swift economic
     development. As an independent state,
Turkmenistan has much to offer
     to the Central Asian region and the international
community. By
     effectively using its natural resources,
continuing on a path of economic
     reform as can be seen in the agricultural
industry, and promoting its
     economic potential to attract foreign investment,
Turkmenistan can be
     assured of decades of successful economic growth.
The government
     believes that by seeking international
investment, technological and
     management support for its country, Turkmenistan
can play a major role
     as the economic catalyst for the Central Asian
region, and join the world
     leaders in the distribution of oil and gas.

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX) (Japan), 6.5
percent

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX), a Tokyo-based
company, has
     been engaged in the exploration and development
of petroleum resources,
     mainly in Indonesia, since 1966 in order to
ensure a continued stable
     supply of energy resources to Japan. With its
core activity area in
     Indonesia, INPEX is expanding its activities in
East Asia, Oceania, CIS,
     the Middle East and Africa. INPEX and its
subsidiaries are currently
     producing 280,000 BOEPD equity oil and gas in
Indonesia, Australia and
     UAE.

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) (Japan),
6.5 percent

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) was
formed in 1972 and is
     now involved in the exploration, development and
production of
     hydrocarbons in Indonesia, U.K. North Sea,
Australia, Pakistan, CIS
     Countries, Yemen, Oman and Gabon. CIECO is the
core company
     responsible for all Hydrocarbon Exploration and
Production activities
     within the subsidiaries and associates of ITOCHU
Corporation, the
     largest trading company in Japan. With maximum
utilization to
     ITOCHU's worldwide network, CIECO is well placed
to continue to
     expand its foreign activities in the future.

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd.
(Korea), 5 percent

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd. was
established in 1947,
     and its major role was rebuilding Korea's
infrastructure. Growing rapidly
     during the early 1960s, Hyundai built dams,
bridges, buildings and
     tunnels, as well as industrial plants that were
desperately needed. Since it
     launched into the international market in 1968,
Hyundai has taken a place
     among top global general contractors, with
approximately US$32 billion
     construction orders through 1996. As the core
company of Hyundai
     Business Group, Hyundai has set the pace for the
Hyundai Business
     Group which is now a US$87 billion multi-national
conglomerate
     specializing in engineering and construction,
automobiles, shipbuilding,
     robotics, electronics, petrochemicals, aerospace
and trading.

     The Crescent Group (Pakistan), 3.5 percent

     The Crescent Group, in business for more than 50
years, is the premier
     industrial and financial conglomerate in
Pakistan. More than 35
     independent companies operating across Pakistan
form the nucleus of the
     group and are leaders in textiles, jute, sugar,
engineering, steel,
     investment banking, insurance, leasing and
software development. The
     Crescent Group employs over 15,000 people and
contributes to one
     percent of GNP of the country and over two
percent of market
     capitalization of Pakistan. Strategic alliances
have helped position the
     Crescent Group as a leader in its core
businesses, such as textile and
     textile made-ups. Crescent is in partnership with
some of the most
     well-known corporations from the United States
and Europe. The Group
     puts heavy emphasis on keeping its projects
environment-friendly,
     promotes education, and spends considerably on
the development of
     human talent in safe working conditions.

     Project Overview

     International Pipeline Consortium

     Six international companies and the Government of
Turkmenistan are
     forming an international pipeline consortium,
Central Asia Gas Pipeline,
     Ltd. (CentGas) to develop a natural gas pipeline
that will link
     Turkmenistan's vast natural gas reserves with the
growing markets of
     Pakistan and possibly India. This major new
source of fuel will
     supplement indigenous natural gas supply. An
efficient, clean-burning
     fuel, natural gas can be economically and safely
transported by pipeline
     over long distances, and priced competitively
with alternate fuels.

     The Resource

     Dauletabad Field is one of the largest gas fields
in the world. DeGolyer &
     MacNaughton, an internationally recognized
petroleum engineering firm,
     has thoroughly evaluated the field's reserves.
These evaluations clearly
     show that the field's resources are adequate for
project needs, assuming
     production rates of roughly 1.5 billion cubic
feet of gas per day (15 billion
     cubic meters of gas per year) for 30 years or
more. The Government of
     Turkmenistan has guaranteed deliverability of 25
trillion cubic feet (709
     billion cubic meters) of natural gas exclusively
for this project. Much or
     all of this gas is expected to come from the
Dauletabad Field.

     The Market

     Forecasts based on reasonable gas purchase, sales
price and other
     assumptions show sufficient demand for the
imported gas at prices that
     support the project's economic viability. Market
analyses indicate that
     Pakistan's electric power generation market will
be the main consumer of
     the imported gas.

     The Route

     The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road through Afghanistan, cross
the Pakistan border
     in the vicinity of Quetta, and terminate in
Multan, Pakistan, where it will
     tie into an existing pipeline system.
Turkmenistan will construct a pipeline
     that will link with the CentGas line at the
border and stretch
     approximately 105 miles (169 kilometers) to the
Dauletabad Field. A
     potential 400-mile (644-kilometer) extension from
Multan to New Delhi
     also is under consideration. Estimated cost of
the project is US$1.9 billion
     for the segment to Pakistan, and an additional
US$600 million for the
     extension to India.

     Inter-Government Support

     The project enjoys strong support from the
governments and leadership
     of the three countries directly involved and has
also attracted the interest
     of other countries. Turkmenistan and Pakistan
have demonstrated
     inter-government support through various
memorandums of
     understanding.

     Regional Benefits

     The project offers numerous long- and short-term
benefits to the region.
     It will link plentiful supplies of clean-burning
natural gas with growing
     regional markets, employ thousands of local
people, foster regional
     cooperation, and enhance trade, transportation
and communication. The
     development of pipeline-related infrastructure
also will create
     opportunities for economic growth in other
industries. In addition to
     regional advantages, the pipeline offers specific
benefits to the countries
     involved. Turkmenistan will reach new markets
with its plentiful gas
     reserves, while Pakistan gains a reliable source
of clean-burning fuel to
     drive its economic growth. Afghanistan will earn
extensive economic
     benefits from the pipeline, both during
construction and over the life of
     the project.

     Source: Central Asia Gas Pipeline, Ltd.


From: A PROUD AMERICAN
To:
Subject: OIL AND BOOMING THE ECONOMY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRROSITS!
Date: Thu Oct 4 19:48:29 2001

Message:
9-18-1

     "The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road THROUGH AFGHANISTAN
(emphasis added
     -ed), cross the Pakistan border in the vicinity
of Quetta, and terminate in
     Multan, Pakistan, where it will tie into an
existing pipeline system."

     Hi Jeff,

     They say follow the money. Well, here's the money
trail.

     Everyone from Hitler on down has wanted the
Caspian Sea oil and with
     the fall of communism, the international bankers
finally got some control
     over this resource. The problem is that to get
this oil to the West requires
     a pipeline that would have to go through
Tajikistan, Afghanistan and
     Pakistan. But the fundamentalist Muslim
governments of this places
     won't play ball so...they get another agent like
Ho Chi Minh, in this case
     Osama bin-Laden, who was funded and encouraged by
our CIA to fight
     the Russians in Afghanistan, to be the Bugagoo,
either by instigation or
     merely by allowing his attacks. Then, in the
ensuing unthinking surge of
     patriotism, either US troops or a UN coalition
moves into the area to
     wipe out the "terrorists" and install
"democratically aligned" governments
     and, bingo, the obstacles to the Central Asia
Pipeline disappear and the
     profit line is increased at only the cost of
several thousand human lives,
     unfortunate but necessary in this age of
overpopulation. It's a grander
     replay of the Gulf War but it's still about oil,
a commodity dear to the
     heart of the Bush family.

     Consortium Formed To Build Central Asia Gas
Pipeline

     October 27, 1997

     ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan, - Six international
companies and the
     Government of Turkmenistan formed Central Asia
Gas Pipeline, Ltd.
     (CentGas) in formal signing ceremonies here
Saturday. The group is
     developing a project to build a 790-mile
(1,271-kilometer) pipeline to link
     Turkmenistan's abundant proven natural gas
reserves with growing
     markets in Pakistan. The group is also
considering an extension of the
     line to the New Delhi area in India.

     "This is a truly significant step in the
development of this project," said
     John F. Imle, Jr., president of Unocal
Corporation . Unocal was
     appointed by the Government of Turkmenistan to
lead the project
     development activities and form the gas pipeline
consortium. A Unocal
     subsidiary will serve as development manager for
CentGas. "The interest
     shown by major international companies
underscores both the
     attractiveness of the proposed pipeline and the
significant economic
     benefits it can bring to the region. This project
could be the foundation
     for a new commerce corridor for the region --
often referred to as the
     Silk Road for the 21st century.

     The CentGas consortium will initially include the
following companies,
     either directly or through affiliates: Unocal
Corporation, 46.5 percent;
     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent; the Government
     of Turkmenistan, 7 percent; Indonesia Petroleum,
LTD. (INPEX)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co.,
Ltd. (CIECO)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; Hyundai Engineering &
Construction Co., Ltd.
     (Korea), 5 percent; and the Crescent Group
(Pakistan), 3.5 percent. RAO
     Gazprom (Russia) has indicated an interest in
signing the consortium
     agreements formalizing a 10 percent share in the
project in the near
     future.

     The proposed pipeline will carry natural gas from
the Dauletabad Field, in
     southeastern Turkmenistan at a rate of up to 2
billion cubic feet per day
     (20 billion cubic meters per year). The
Dauletabad Field has
     independently certified reserves of more then 25
trillion cubic feet (708
     billion cubic meters). The Government of
Turkmenistan has guaranteed
     deliverability of 25 trillion cubic feet (708
billion cubic meters) of natural
     gas exclusively for the Central Asia Gas
Pipeline. Much or all of this gas
     is expected to come from the Dauletabad Field.

     The inaugural memorandum of understanding between
the governments
     of Turkmenistan and Pakistan for the CentGas
project was signed in
     March 1995.

     "The formation of the consortium is another major
milestone achieved in
     accordance with the requirements of protocols and
agreements previously
     signed with the Governments of Turkmenistan and
Pakistan," said Marty
     Miller, Unocal Corporation vice president
responsible for new ventures in
     Central Asia and Pakistan.

     Miller pointed out that the project still faces
significant economic, political
     and commercial challenges, such as finalizing
mutually acceptable
     commercial agreements and agreements with transit
countries. "This
     project has exceptionally sound economic
fundamentals, given the
     presence of proven gas reserves in Turkmenistan
and the market needs
     of Pakistan and India. The Dauletabad Field has
produced well over 2
     billion cubic feet per day in the past and is
capable of producing that
     volume today. With the right development program,
the Field will
     continue to be able to produce natural gas at
this rate long into the future.
     No other import project can provide such volumes
of natural gas to these
     markets at a lower price."

     The proposed natural gas pipeline would stretch
from the
     Turkmenistan/Afghanistan border in southeastern
Turkmenistan to
     Multan, Pakistan (790 miles, 1,271 kilometers),
with a 400-mile
     (640-kilometer) extension to India under
consideration. Estimated cost of
     the project is US$1.9 billion for the segment to
Pakistan and an additional
     US$600 million for the extension to India. This
news release contains
     forward-looking information, including
projections of future business
     plans and potential capital expenditures. Actual
results could differ
     materially from these projections.

     CentGas Consortium Members:

     Unocal Corporation (U.S.), 46.5 percent

     Founded over 100 years ago, Unocal is one of the
world's leading energy
     resource and project development companies
providing regional
     integrated energy solutions. Unocal has reserves
of more than 9.8 trillion
     cubic feet of natural gas equivalent (1.6 billion
barrels of oil equivalent)
     and major oil and gas production activities in
Asia and the U.S. Gulf of
     Mexico.

     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent

     Delta Oil Company Limited, a private Saudi-owned
company, was
     founded by its Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer, Mr. Badr M.
     Al-Aiban. Mr. Al-Aiban established the original
Delta entity in Saudi
     Arabia in 1978, and its activities have expanded
significantly since its
     inception. Today, Delta and its affiliates
comprise a diversified group of
     companies involved in the energy industry, real
estate development, food
     processing and packaging, soft drink bottling and
distribution, agriculture
     and manufacturing. The company's operations
extend to Central Asia,
     South East Asia and other countries in the Middle
East. Delta has
     developed a number of strategic alliances in the
oil and gas industry. As a
     member of the Azerbaijan International Operating
Company (AIOC) and
     the North Absheron Operating Company Limited
(NAOC), Delta and its
     affiliates are involved in exploring and
developing oil fields in Azerbaijan,
     as well as other Central Asian countries.

     The Government of Turkmenistan, 7 percent

     Since declaring its independence from the USSR on
October 27, 1991,
     Turkmenistan has looked forward to increasing the
economic strength of
     the new state. The country has strived to build
on its traditions, values
     and history to form a political and economic
system capable of increasing
     the well-being of its people, and strengthening
the sovereignty of
     Turkmenistan. The leadership of Turkmenistan has
met the challenge of
     reform head on, and has established many channels
for swift economic
     development. As an independent state,
Turkmenistan has much to offer
     to the Central Asian region and the international
community. By
     effectively using its natural resources,
continuing on a path of economic
     reform as can be seen in the agricultural
industry, and promoting its
     economic potential to attract foreign investment,
Turkmenistan can be
     assured of decades of successful economic growth.
The government
     believes that by seeking international
investment, technological and
     management support for its country, Turkmenistan
can play a major role
     as the economic catalyst for the Central Asian
region, and join the world
     leaders in the distribution of oil and gas.

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX) (Japan), 6.5
percent

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX), a Tokyo-based
company, has
     been engaged in the exploration and development
of petroleum resources,
     mainly in Indonesia, since 1966 in order to
ensure a continued stable
     supply of energy resources to Japan. With its
core activity area in
     Indonesia, INPEX is expanding its activities in
East Asia, Oceania, CIS,
     the Middle East and Africa. INPEX and its
subsidiaries are currently
     producing 280,000 BOEPD equity oil and gas in
Indonesia, Australia and
     UAE.

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) (Japan),
6.5 percent

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) was
formed in 1972 and is
     now involved in the exploration, development and
production of
     hydrocarbons in Indonesia, U.K. North Sea,
Australia, Pakistan, CIS
     Countries, Yemen, Oman and Gabon. CIECO is the
core company
     responsible for all Hydrocarbon Exploration and
Production activities
     within the subsidiaries and associates of ITOCHU
Corporation, the
     largest trading company in Japan. With maximum
utilization to
     ITOCHU's worldwide network, CIECO is well placed
to continue to
     expand its foreign activities in the future.

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd.
(Korea), 5 percent

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd. was
established in 1947,
     and its major role was rebuilding Korea's
infrastructure. Growing rapidly
     during the early 1960s, Hyundai built dams,
bridges, buildings and
     tunnels, as well as industrial plants that were
desperately needed. Since it
     launched into the international market in 1968,
Hyundai has taken a place
     among top global general contractors, with
approximately US$32 billion
     construction orders through 1996. As the core
company of Hyundai
     Business Group, Hyundai has set the pace for the
Hyundai Business
     Group which is now a US$87 billion multi-national
conglomerate
     specializing in engineering and construction,
automobiles, shipbuilding,
     robotics, electronics, petrochemicals, aerospace
and trading.

     The Crescent Group (Pakistan), 3.5 percent

     The Crescent Group, in business for more than 50
years, is the premier
     industrial and financial conglomerate in
Pakistan. More than 35
     independent companies operating across Pakistan
form the nucleus of the
     group and are leaders in textiles, jute, sugar,
engineering, steel,
     investment banking, insurance, leasing and
software development. The
     Crescent Group employs over 15,000 people and
contributes to one
     percent of GNP of the country and over two
percent of market
     capitalization of Pakistan. Strategic alliances
have helped position the
     Crescent Group as a leader in its core
businesses, such as textile and
     textile made-ups. Crescent is in partnership with
some of the most
     well-known corporations from the United States
and Europe. The Group
     puts heavy emphasis on keeping its projects
environment-friendly,
     promotes education, and spends considerably on
the development of
     human talent in safe working conditions.

     Project Overview

     International Pipeline Consortium

     Six international companies and the Government of
Turkmenistan are
     forming an international pipeline consortium,
Central Asia Gas Pipeline,
     Ltd. (CentGas) to develop a natural gas pipeline
that will link
     Turkmenistan's vast natural gas reserves with the
growing markets of
     Pakistan and possibly India. This major new
source of fuel will
     supplement indigenous natural gas supply. An
efficient, clean-burning
     fuel, natural gas can be economically and safely
transported by pipeline
     over long distances, and priced competitively
with alternate fuels.

     The Resource

     Dauletabad Field is one of the largest gas fields
in the world. DeGolyer &
     MacNaughton, an internationally recognized
petroleum engineering firm,
     has thoroughly evaluated the field's reserves.
These evaluations clearly
     show that the field's resources are adequate for
project needs, assuming
     production rates of roughly 1.5 billion cubic
feet of gas per day (15 billion
     cubic meters of gas per year) for 30 years or
more. The Government of
     Turkmenistan has guaranteed deliverability of 25
trillion cubic feet (709
     billion cubic meters) of natural gas exclusively
for this project. Much or
     all of this gas is expected to come from the
Dauletabad Field.

     The Market

     Forecasts based on reasonable gas purchase, sales
price and other
     assumptions show sufficient demand for the
imported gas at prices that
     support the project's economic viability. Market
analyses indicate that
     Pakistan's electric power generation market will
be the main consumer of
     the imported gas.

     The Route

     The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road through Afghanistan, cross
the Pakistan border
     in the vicinity of Quetta, and terminate in
Multan, Pakistan, where it will
     tie into an existing pipeline system.
Turkmenistan will construct a pipeline
     that will link with the CentGas line at the
border and stretch
     approximately 105 miles (169 kilometers) to the
Dauletabad Field. A
     potential 400-mile (644-kilometer) extension from
Multan to New Delhi
     also is under consideration. Estimated cost of
the project is US$1.9 billion
     for the segment to Pakistan, and an additional
US$600 million for the
     extension to India.

     Inter-Government Support

     The project enjoys strong support from the
governments and leadership
     of the three countries directly involved and has
also attracted the interest
     of other countries. Turkmenistan and Pakistan
have demonstrated
     inter-government support through various
memorandums of
     understanding.

     Regional Benefits

     The project offers numerous long- and short-term
benefits to the region.
     It will link plentiful supplies of clean-burning
natural gas with growing
     regional markets, employ thousands of local
people, foster regional
     cooperation, and enhance trade, transportation
and communication. The
     development of pipeline-related infrastructure
also will create
     opportunities for economic growth in other
industries. In addition to
     regional advantages, the pipeline offers specific
benefits to the countries
     involved. Turkmenistan will reach new markets
with its plentiful gas
     reserves, while Pakistan gains a reliable source
of clean-burning fuel to
     drive its economic growth. Afghanistan will earn
extensive economic
     benefits from the pipeline, both during
construction and over the life of
     the project.

     Source: Central Asia Gas Pipeline, Ltd.


From: A PROUD AMERICAN
To:
Subject: OIL AND BOOMING THE ECONOMY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRROSITS!
Date: Thu Oct 4 19:48:29 2001

Message:
9-18-1

     "The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road THROUGH AFGHANISTAN
(emphasis added
     -ed), cross the Pakistan border in the vicinity
of Quetta, and terminate in
     Multan, Pakistan, where it will tie into an
existing pipeline system."

     Hi Jeff,

     They say follow the money. Well, here's the money
trail.

     Everyone from Hitler on down has wanted the
Caspian Sea oil and with
     the fall of communism, the international bankers
finally got some control
     over this resource. The problem is that to get
this oil to the West requires
     a pipeline that would have to go through
Tajikistan, Afghanistan and
     Pakistan. But the fundamentalist Muslim
governments of this places
     won't play ball so...they get another agent like
Ho Chi Minh, in this case
     Osama bin-Laden, who was funded and encouraged by
our CIA to fight
     the Russians in Afghanistan, to be the Bugagoo,
either by instigation or
     merely by allowing his attacks. Then, in the
ensuing unthinking surge of
     patriotism, either US troops or a UN coalition
moves into the area to
     wipe out the "terrorists" and install
"democratically aligned" governments
     and, bingo, the obstacles to the Central Asia
Pipeline disappear and the
     profit line is increased at only the cost of
several thousand human lives,
     unfortunate but necessary in this age of
overpopulation. It's a grander
     replay of the Gulf War but it's still about oil,
a commodity dear to the
     heart of the Bush family.

     Consortium Formed To Build Central Asia Gas
Pipeline

     October 27, 1997

     ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan, - Six international
companies and the
     Government of Turkmenistan formed Central Asia
Gas Pipeline, Ltd.
     (CentGas) in formal signing ceremonies here
Saturday. The group is
     developing a project to build a 790-mile
(1,271-kilometer) pipeline to link
     Turkmenistan's abundant proven natural gas
reserves with growing
     markets in Pakistan. The group is also
considering an extension of the
     line to the New Delhi area in India.

     "This is a truly significant step in the
development of this project," said
     John F. Imle, Jr., president of Unocal
Corporation . Unocal was
     appointed by the Government of Turkmenistan to
lead the project
     development activities and form the gas pipeline
consortium. A Unocal
     subsidiary will serve as development manager for
CentGas. "The interest
     shown by major international companies
underscores both the
     attractiveness of the proposed pipeline and the
significant economic
     benefits it can bring to the region. This project
could be the foundation
     for a new commerce corridor for the region --
often referred to as the
     Silk Road for the 21st century.

     The CentGas consortium will initially include the
following companies,
     either directly or through affiliates: Unocal
Corporation, 46.5 percent;
     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent; the Government
     of Turkmenistan, 7 percent; Indonesia Petroleum,
LTD. (INPEX)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co.,
Ltd. (CIECO)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; Hyundai Engineering &
Construction Co., Ltd.
     (Korea), 5 percent; and the Crescent Group
(Pakistan), 3.5 percent. RAO
     Gazprom (Russia) has indicated an interest in
signing the consortium
     agreements formalizing a 10 percent share in the
project in the near
     future.

     The proposed pipeline will carry natural gas from
the Dauletabad Field, in
     southeastern Turkmenistan at a rate of up to 2
billion cubic feet per day
     (20 billion cubic meters per year). The
Dauletabad Field has
     independently certified reserves of more then 25
trillion cubic feet (708
     billion cubic meters). The Government of
Turkmenistan has guaranteed
     deliverability of 25 trillion cubic feet (708
billion cubic meters) of natural
     gas exclusively for the Central Asia Gas
Pipeline. Much or all of this gas
     is expected to come from the Dauletabad Field.

     The inaugural memorandum of understanding between
the governments
     of Turkmenistan and Pakistan for the CentGas
project was signed in
     March 1995.

     "The formation of the consortium is another major
milestone achieved in
     accordance with the requirements of protocols and
agreements previously
     signed with the Governments of Turkmenistan and
Pakistan," said Marty
     Miller, Unocal Corporation vice president
responsible for new ventures in
     Central Asia and Pakistan.

     Miller pointed out that the project still faces
significant economic, political
     and commercial challenges, such as finalizing
mutually acceptable
     commercial agreements and agreements with transit
countries. "This
     project has exceptionally sound economic
fundamentals, given the
     presence of proven gas reserves in Turkmenistan
and the market needs
     of Pakistan and India. The Dauletabad Field has
produced well over 2
     billion cubic feet per day in the past and is
capable of producing that
     volume today. With the right development program,
the Field will
     continue to be able to produce natural gas at
this rate long into the future.
     No other import project can provide such volumes
of natural gas to these
     markets at a lower price."

     The proposed natural gas pipeline would stretch
from the
     Turkmenistan/Afghanistan border in southeastern
Turkmenistan to
     Multan, Pakistan (790 miles, 1,271 kilometers),
with a 400-mile
     (640-kilometer) extension to India under
consideration. Estimated cost of
     the project is US$1.9 billion for the segment to
Pakistan and an additional
     US$600 million for the extension to India. This
news release contains
     forward-looking information, including
projections of future business
     plans and potential capital expenditures. Actual
results could differ
     materially from these projections.

     CentGas Consortium Members:

     Unocal Corporation (U.S.), 46.5 percent

     Founded over 100 years ago, Unocal is one of the
world's leading energy
     resource and project development companies
providing regional
     integrated energy solutions. Unocal has reserves
of more than 9.8 trillion
     cubic feet of natural gas equivalent (1.6 billion
barrels of oil equivalent)
     and major oil and gas production activities in
Asia and the U.S. Gulf of
     Mexico.

     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent

     Delta Oil Company Limited, a private Saudi-owned
company, was
     founded by its Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer, Mr. Badr M.
     Al-Aiban. Mr. Al-Aiban established the original
Delta entity in Saudi
     Arabia in 1978, and its activities have expanded
significantly since its
     inception. Today, Delta and its affiliates
comprise a diversified group of
     companies involved in the energy industry, real
estate development, food
     processing and packaging, soft drink bottling and
distribution, agriculture
     and manufacturing. The company's operations
extend to Central Asia,
     South East Asia and other countries in the Middle
East. Delta has
     developed a number of strategic alliances in the
oil and gas industry. As a
     member of the Azerbaijan International Operating
Company (AIOC) and
     the North Absheron Operating Company Limited
(NAOC), Delta and its
     affiliates are involved in exploring and
developing oil fields in Azerbaijan,
     as well as other Central Asian countries.

     The Government of Turkmenistan, 7 percent

     Since declaring its independence from the USSR on
October 27, 1991,
     Turkmenistan has looked forward to increasing the
economic strength of
     the new state. The country has strived to build
on its traditions, values
     and history to form a political and economic
system capable of increasing
     the well-being of its people, and strengthening
the sovereignty of
     Turkmenistan. The leadership of Turkmenistan has
met the challenge of
     reform head on, and has established many channels
for swift economic
     development. As an independent state,
Turkmenistan has much to offer
     to the Central Asian region and the international
community. By
     effectively using its natural resources,
continuing on a path of economic
     reform as can be seen in the agricultural
industry, and promoting its
     economic potential to attract foreign investment,
Turkmenistan can be
     assured of decades of successful economic growth.
The government
     believes that by seeking international
investment, technological and
     management support for its country, Turkmenistan
can play a major role
     as the economic catalyst for the Central Asian
region, and join the world
     leaders in the distribution of oil and gas.

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX) (Japan), 6.5
percent

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX), a Tokyo-based
company, has
     been engaged in the exploration and development
of petroleum resources,
     mainly in Indonesia, since 1966 in order to
ensure a continued stable
     supply of energy resources to Japan. With its
core activity area in
     Indonesia, INPEX is expanding its activities in
East Asia, Oceania, CIS,
     the Middle East and Africa. INPEX and its
subsidiaries are currently
     producing 280,000 BOEPD equity oil and gas in
Indonesia, Australia and
     UAE.

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) (Japan),
6.5 percent

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) was
formed in 1972 and is
     now involved in the exploration, development and
production of
     hydrocarbons in Indonesia, U.K. North Sea,
Australia, Pakistan, CIS
     Countries, Yemen, Oman and Gabon. CIECO is the
core company
     responsible for all Hydrocarbon Exploration and
Production activities
     within the subsidiaries and associates of ITOCHU
Corporation, the
     largest trading company in Japan. With maximum
utilization to
     ITOCHU's worldwide network, CIECO is well placed
to continue to
     expand its foreign activities in the future.

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd.
(Korea), 5 percent

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd. was
established in 1947,
     and its major role was rebuilding Korea's
infrastructure. Growing rapidly
     during the early 1960s, Hyundai built dams,
bridges, buildings and
     tunnels, as well as industrial plants that were
desperately needed. Since it
     launched into the international market in 1968,
Hyundai has taken a place
     among top global general contractors, with
approximately US$32 billion
     construction orders through 1996. As the core
company of Hyundai
     Business Group, Hyundai has set the pace for the
Hyundai Business
     Group which is now a US$87 billion multi-national
conglomerate
     specializing in engineering and construction,
automobiles, shipbuilding,
     robotics, electronics, petrochemicals, aerospace
and trading.

     The Crescent Group (Pakistan), 3.5 percent

     The Crescent Group, in business for more than 50
years, is the premier
     industrial and financial conglomerate in
Pakistan. More than 35
     independent companies operating across Pakistan
form the nucleus of the
     group and are leaders in textiles, jute, sugar,
engineering, steel,
     investment banking, insurance, leasing and
software development. The
     Crescent Group employs over 15,000 people and
contributes to one
     percent of GNP of the country and over two
percent of market
     capitalization of Pakistan. Strategic alliances
have helped position the
     Crescent Group as a leader in its core
businesses, such as textile and
     textile made-ups. Crescent is in partnership with
some of the most
     well-known corporations from the United States
and Europe. The Group
     puts heavy emphasis on keeping its projects
environment-friendly,
     promotes education, and spends considerably on
the development of
     human talent in safe working conditions.

     Project Overview

     International Pipeline Consortium

     Six international companies and the Government of
Turkmenistan are
     forming an international pipeline consortium,
Central Asia Gas Pipeline,
     Ltd. (CentGas) to develop a natural gas pipeline
that will link
     Turkmenistan's vast natural gas reserves with the
growing markets of
     Pakistan and possibly India. This major new
source of fuel will
     supplement indigenous natural gas supply. An
efficient, clean-burning
     fuel, natural gas can be economically and safely
transported by pipeline
     over long distances, and priced competitively
with alternate fuels.

     The Resource

     Dauletabad Field is one of the largest gas fields
in the world. DeGolyer &
     MacNaughton, an internationally recognized
petroleum engineering firm,
     has thoroughly evaluated the field's reserves.
These evaluations clearly
     show that the field's resources are adequate for
project needs, assuming
     production rates of roughly 1.5 billion cubic
feet of gas per day (15 billion
     cubic meters of gas per year) for 30 years or
more. The Government of
     Turkmenistan has guaranteed deliverability of 25
trillion cubic feet (709
     billion cubic meters) of natural gas exclusively
for this project. Much or
     all of this gas is expected to come from the
Dauletabad Field.

     The Market

     Forecasts based on reasonable gas purchase, sales
price and other
     assumptions show sufficient demand for the
imported gas at prices that
     support the project's economic viability. Market
analyses indicate that
     Pakistan's electric power generation market will
be the main consumer of
     the imported gas.

     The Route

     The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road through Afghanistan, cross
the Pakistan border
     in the vicinity of Quetta, and terminate in
Multan, Pakistan, where it will
     tie into an existing pipeline system.
Turkmenistan will construct a pipeline
     that will link with the CentGas line at the
border and stretch
     approximately 105 miles (169 kilometers) to the
Dauletabad Field. A
     potential 400-mile (644-kilometer) extension from
Multan to New Delhi
     also is under consideration. Estimated cost of
the project is US$1.9 billion
     for the segment to Pakistan, and an additional
US$600 million for the
     extension to India.

     Inter-Government Support

     The project enjoys strong support from the
governments and leadership
     of the three countries directly involved and has
also attracted the interest
     of other countries. Turkmenistan and Pakistan
have demonstrated
     inter-government support through various
memorandums of
     understanding.

     Regional Benefits

     The project offers numerous long- and short-term
benefits to the region.
     It will link plentiful supplies of clean-burning
natural gas with growing
     regional markets, employ thousands of local
people, foster regional
     cooperation, and enhance trade, transportation
and communication. The
     development of pipeline-related infrastructure
also will create
     opportunities for economic growth in other
industries. In addition to
     regional advantages, the pipeline offers specific
benefits to the countries
     involved. Turkmenistan will reach new markets
with its plentiful gas
     reserves, while Pakistan gains a reliable source
of clean-burning fuel to
     drive its economic growth. Afghanistan will earn
extensive economic
     benefits from the pipeline, both during
construction and over the life of
     the project.

     Source: Central Asia Gas Pipeline, Ltd.


From: A PROUD AMERICAN
To:
Subject: OIL AND BOOMING THE ECONOMY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRROSITS!
Date: Thu Oct 4 19:48:29 2001

Message:
9-18-1

     "The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road THROUGH AFGHANISTAN
(emphasis added
     -ed), cross the Pakistan border in the vicinity
of Quetta, and terminate in
     Multan, Pakistan, where it will tie into an
existing pipeline system."

     Hi Jeff,

     They say follow the money. Well, here's the money
trail.

     Everyone from Hitler on down has wanted the
Caspian Sea oil and with
     the fall of communism, the international bankers
finally got some control
     over this resource. The problem is that to get
this oil to the West requires
     a pipeline that would have to go through
Tajikistan, Afghanistan and
     Pakistan. But the fundamentalist Muslim
governments of this places
     won't play ball so...they get another agent like
Ho Chi Minh, in this case
     Osama bin-Laden, who was funded and encouraged by
our CIA to fight
     the Russians in Afghanistan, to be the Bugagoo,
either by instigation or
     merely by allowing his attacks. Then, in the
ensuing unthinking surge of
     patriotism, either US troops or a UN coalition
moves into the area to
     wipe out the "terrorists" and install
"democratically aligned" governments
     and, bingo, the obstacles to the Central Asia
Pipeline disappear and the
     profit line is increased at only the cost of
several thousand human lives,
     unfortunate but necessary in this age of
overpopulation. It's a grander
     replay of the Gulf War but it's still about oil,
a commodity dear to the
     heart of the Bush family.

     Consortium Formed To Build Central Asia Gas
Pipeline

     October 27, 1997

     ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan, - Six international
companies and the
     Government of Turkmenistan formed Central Asia
Gas Pipeline, Ltd.
     (CentGas) in formal signing ceremonies here
Saturday. The group is
     developing a project to build a 790-mile
(1,271-kilometer) pipeline to link
     Turkmenistan's abundant proven natural gas
reserves with growing
     markets in Pakistan. The group is also
considering an extension of the
     line to the New Delhi area in India.

     "This is a truly significant step in the
development of this project," said
     John F. Imle, Jr., president of Unocal
Corporation . Unocal was
     appointed by the Government of Turkmenistan to
lead the project
     development activities and form the gas pipeline
consortium. A Unocal
     subsidiary will serve as development manager for
CentGas. "The interest
     shown by major international companies
underscores both the
     attractiveness of the proposed pipeline and the
significant economic
     benefits it can bring to the region. This project
could be the foundation
     for a new commerce corridor for the region --
often referred to as the
     Silk Road for the 21st century.

     The CentGas consortium will initially include the
following companies,
     either directly or through affiliates: Unocal
Corporation, 46.5 percent;
     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent; the Government
     of Turkmenistan, 7 percent; Indonesia Petroleum,
LTD. (INPEX)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co.,
Ltd. (CIECO)
     (Japan), 6.5 percent; Hyundai Engineering &
Construction Co., Ltd.
     (Korea), 5 percent; and the Crescent Group
(Pakistan), 3.5 percent. RAO
     Gazprom (Russia) has indicated an interest in
signing the consortium
     agreements formalizing a 10 percent share in the
project in the near
     future.

     The proposed pipeline will carry natural gas from
the Dauletabad Field, in
     southeastern Turkmenistan at a rate of up to 2
billion cubic feet per day
     (20 billion cubic meters per year). The
Dauletabad Field has
     independently certified reserves of more then 25
trillion cubic feet (708
     billion cubic meters). The Government of
Turkmenistan has guaranteed
     deliverability of 25 trillion cubic feet (708
billion cubic meters) of natural
     gas exclusively for the Central Asia Gas
Pipeline. Much or all of this gas
     is expected to come from the Dauletabad Field.

     The inaugural memorandum of understanding between
the governments
     of Turkmenistan and Pakistan for the CentGas
project was signed in
     March 1995.

     "The formation of the consortium is another major
milestone achieved in
     accordance with the requirements of protocols and
agreements previously
     signed with the Governments of Turkmenistan and
Pakistan," said Marty
     Miller, Unocal Corporation vice president
responsible for new ventures in
     Central Asia and Pakistan.

     Miller pointed out that the project still faces
significant economic, political
     and commercial challenges, such as finalizing
mutually acceptable
     commercial agreements and agreements with transit
countries. "This
     project has exceptionally sound economic
fundamentals, given the
     presence of proven gas reserves in Turkmenistan
and the market needs
     of Pakistan and India. The Dauletabad Field has
produced well over 2
     billion cubic feet per day in the past and is
capable of producing that
     volume today. With the right development program,
the Field will
     continue to be able to produce natural gas at
this rate long into the future.
     No other import project can provide such volumes
of natural gas to these
     markets at a lower price."

     The proposed natural gas pipeline would stretch
from the
     Turkmenistan/Afghanistan border in southeastern
Turkmenistan to
     Multan, Pakistan (790 miles, 1,271 kilometers),
with a 400-mile
     (640-kilometer) extension to India under
consideration. Estimated cost of
     the project is US$1.9 billion for the segment to
Pakistan and an additional
     US$600 million for the extension to India. This
news release contains
     forward-looking information, including
projections of future business
     plans and potential capital expenditures. Actual
results could differ
     materially from these projections.

     CentGas Consortium Members:

     Unocal Corporation (U.S.), 46.5 percent

     Founded over 100 years ago, Unocal is one of the
world's leading energy
     resource and project development companies
providing regional
     integrated energy solutions. Unocal has reserves
of more than 9.8 trillion
     cubic feet of natural gas equivalent (1.6 billion
barrels of oil equivalent)
     and major oil and gas production activities in
Asia and the U.S. Gulf of
     Mexico.

     Delta Oil Company Limited (Saudi Arabia), 15
percent

     Delta Oil Company Limited, a private Saudi-owned
company, was
     founded by its Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer, Mr. Badr M.
     Al-Aiban. Mr. Al-Aiban established the original
Delta entity in Saudi
     Arabia in 1978, and its activities have expanded
significantly since its
     inception. Today, Delta and its affiliates
comprise a diversified group of
     companies involved in the energy industry, real
estate development, food
     processing and packaging, soft drink bottling and
distribution, agriculture
     and manufacturing. The company's operations
extend to Central Asia,
     South East Asia and other countries in the Middle
East. Delta has
     developed a number of strategic alliances in the
oil and gas industry. As a
     member of the Azerbaijan International Operating
Company (AIOC) and
     the North Absheron Operating Company Limited
(NAOC), Delta and its
     affiliates are involved in exploring and
developing oil fields in Azerbaijan,
     as well as other Central Asian countries.

     The Government of Turkmenistan, 7 percent

     Since declaring its independence from the USSR on
October 27, 1991,
     Turkmenistan has looked forward to increasing the
economic strength of
     the new state. The country has strived to build
on its traditions, values
     and history to form a political and economic
system capable of increasing
     the well-being of its people, and strengthening
the sovereignty of
     Turkmenistan. The leadership of Turkmenistan has
met the challenge of
     reform head on, and has established many channels
for swift economic
     development. As an independent state,
Turkmenistan has much to offer
     to the Central Asian region and the international
community. By
     effectively using its natural resources,
continuing on a path of economic
     reform as can be seen in the agricultural
industry, and promoting its
     economic potential to attract foreign investment,
Turkmenistan can be
     assured of decades of successful economic growth.
The government
     believes that by seeking international
investment, technological and
     management support for its country, Turkmenistan
can play a major role
     as the economic catalyst for the Central Asian
region, and join the world
     leaders in the distribution of oil and gas.

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX) (Japan), 6.5
percent

     Indonesia Petroleum, LTD. (INPEX), a Tokyo-based
company, has
     been engaged in the exploration and development
of petroleum resources,
     mainly in Indonesia, since 1966 in order to
ensure a continued stable
     supply of energy resources to Japan. With its
core activity area in
     Indonesia, INPEX is expanding its activities in
East Asia, Oceania, CIS,
     the Middle East and Africa. INPEX and its
subsidiaries are currently
     producing 280,000 BOEPD equity oil and gas in
Indonesia, Australia and
     UAE.

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) (Japan),
6.5 percent

     ITOCHU Oil Exploration Co., Ltd. (CIECO) was
formed in 1972 and is
     now involved in the exploration, development and
production of
     hydrocarbons in Indonesia, U.K. North Sea,
Australia, Pakistan, CIS
     Countries, Yemen, Oman and Gabon. CIECO is the
core company
     responsible for all Hydrocarbon Exploration and
Production activities
     within the subsidiaries and associates of ITOCHU
Corporation, the
     largest trading company in Japan. With maximum
utilization to
     ITOCHU's worldwide network, CIECO is well placed
to continue to
     expand its foreign activities in the future.

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd.
(Korea), 5 percent

     Hyundai Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd. was
established in 1947,
     and its major role was rebuilding Korea's
infrastructure. Growing rapidly
     during the early 1960s, Hyundai built dams,
bridges, buildings and
     tunnels, as well as industrial plants that were
desperately needed. Since it
     launched into the international market in 1968,
Hyundai has taken a place
     among top global general contractors, with
approximately US$32 billion
     construction orders through 1996. As the core
company of Hyundai
     Business Group, Hyundai has set the pace for the
Hyundai Business
     Group which is now a US$87 billion multi-national
conglomerate
     specializing in engineering and construction,
automobiles, shipbuilding,
     robotics, electronics, petrochemicals, aerospace
and trading.

     The Crescent Group (Pakistan), 3.5 percent

     The Crescent Group, in business for more than 50
years, is the premier
     industrial and financial conglomerate in
Pakistan. More than 35
     independent companies operating across Pakistan
form the nucleus of the
     group and are leaders in textiles, jute, sugar,
engineering, steel,
     investment banking, insurance, leasing and
software development. The
     Crescent Group employs over 15,000 people and
contributes to one
     percent of GNP of the country and over two
percent of market
     capitalization of Pakistan. Strategic alliances
have helped position the
     Crescent Group as a leader in its core
businesses, such as textile and
     textile made-ups. Crescent is in partnership with
some of the most
     well-known corporations from the United States
and Europe. The Group
     puts heavy emphasis on keeping its projects
environment-friendly,
     promotes education, and spends considerably on
the development of
     human talent in safe working conditions.

     Project Overview

     International Pipeline Consortium

     Six international companies and the Government of
Turkmenistan are
     forming an international pipeline consortium,
Central Asia Gas Pipeline,
     Ltd. (CentGas) to develop a natural gas pipeline
that will link
     Turkmenistan's vast natural gas reserves with the
growing markets of
     Pakistan and possibly India. This major new
source of fuel will
     supplement indigenous natural gas supply. An
efficient, clean-burning
     fuel, natural gas can be economically and safely
transported by pipeline
     over long distances, and priced competitively
with alternate fuels.

     The Resource

     Dauletabad Field is one of the largest gas fields
in the world. DeGolyer &
     MacNaughton, an internationally recognized
petroleum engineering firm,
     has thoroughly evaluated the field's reserves.
These evaluations clearly
     show that the field's resources are adequate for
project needs, assuming
     production rates of roughly 1.5 billion cubic
feet of gas per day (15 billion
     cubic meters of gas per year) for 30 years or
more. The Government of
     Turkmenistan has guaranteed deliverability of 25
trillion cubic feet (709
     billion cubic meters) of natural gas exclusively
for this project. Much or
     all of this gas is expected to come from the
Dauletabad Field.

     The Market

     Forecasts based on reasonable gas purchase, sales
price and other
     assumptions show sufficient demand for the
imported gas at prices that
     support the project's economic viability. Market
analyses indicate that
     Pakistan's electric power generation market will
be the main consumer of
     the imported gas.

     The Route

     The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790
miles (1,271 kilometers)
     from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border,
generally follow the
     Herat-to-Kandahar Road through Afghanistan, cross
the Pakistan border
     in the vicinity of Quetta, and terminate in
Multan, Pakistan, where it will
     tie into an existing pipeline system.
Turkmenistan will construct a pipeline
     that will link with the CentGas line at the
border and stretch
     approximately 105 miles (169 kilometers) to the
Dauletabad Field. A
     potential 400-mile (644-kilometer) extension from
Multan to New Delhi
     also is under consideration. Estimated cost of
the project is US$1.9 billion
     for the segment to Pakistan, and an additional
US$600 million for the
     extension to India.

     Inter-Government Support

     The project enjoys strong support from the
governments and leadership
     of the three countries directly involved and has
also attracted the interest
     of other countries. Turkmenistan and Pakistan
have demonstrated
     inter-government support through various
memorandums of
     understanding.

     Regional Benefits

     The project offers numerous long- and short-term
benefits to the region.
     It will link plentiful supplies of clean-burning
natural gas with growing
     regional markets, employ thousands of local
people, foster regional
     cooperation, and enhance trade, transportation
and communication. The
     development of pipeline-related infrastructure
also will create
     opportunities for economic growth in other
industries. In addition to
     regional advantages, the pipeline offers specific
benefits to the countries
     involved. Turkmenistan will reach new markets
with its plentiful gas
     reserves, while Pakistan gains a reliable source
of clean-burning fuel to
     drive its economic growth. Afghanistan will earn
extensive economic
     benefits from the pipeline, both during
construction and over the life of
     the project.

     Source: Central Asia Gas Pipeline, Ltd.


From: peaches
To: the tALIBAN
Subject: bye bye
Date: Thu Oct 4 20:05:31 2001

Message:
Is it true that the tALIBAN have little dinks, that's why they 
hate their women so much.  Or is it that the AFGAN dogs are 
better fucking and their women have told them so.  Allah awaits 
you.  But i don't think allah would take any of the tALIBAN, 
they bring shame to Islam.

From: Researching Christian
To: Inquiring Minds
Subject: Understanding Differences
Date: Thu Oct 4 21:49:20 2001

Message:
Before September 11 ... I knew very little about the Muslim 
religion.  So?  I began researching and educating myself.

I first started with our Christian Bible and ran accross 
something very interesting that you may have already studied.  
In Genesis 25:12-18, there is a distinct division between the 
Ishmaelites (also called ARABS) and their Israelite brothers 
that has naturally led to hostility.  25:18 ..."Ishmael's 
descendants settled near the border of Egypt.  And they lived in 
hostility toward all their brothers".

Not even knowing for sure if Muslims were 
these "Ishmaelites" ... I began studying the Muslim religion, as 
well as relecting upon our bible.

According to Muslims themselves ... YES ... they are the 
descendants of Ishmael.  Christians share the Jewish ancestors 
of Ishmael's brother, Isaac whose mother is Sarah (wife of 
Abraham).  Isaac's son, Jacob is renamed ISRAEL.  

Muslims get the idea of another prophet (Mohammand) following 
Jesus in John 14:12.  However, our Christian bible implies that 
Jesus was not speaking of another prophet ... but rather 
promising the coming of the "Holy Spirit" and a resulting 
worldwide ministry.  The Christian church has done greater 
things as Jesus prophesied throughout the growth of the church. 
Just as Jesus had encouraged his disciples, he assured them 
the "HOLY SPIRIT" would be there for them as well.  John 14:16-
26.  Muslims have intrepreted that Holy Spirit as being 
Mohammand.  (However ... Mohammand was only a man ... not a 
spirit) 

Read both parables in Mathew 21:28-41.  Somehow the Muslims 
believe that the Kingdom of God will be taken away from 
Christians (Isaac's decendants) and given to Muslims (Ishmael's 
descendants).  However ... it seems clear to me in 21:38 that 
those who kill the son (Jesus) will come to a wretched end 
21:41.  

Muslims also believe that they are the stone in Matthew 
21:44.  "He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, 
but he on whom it falls will be crushed."  However, in a 
Christian's view it is clear that JESUS is the corner stone the 
builders (Islam) rejected ... not Ishmael's Descendants!

In any case ... one conclusion is for sure.  There are two 
separate and distinct translations ... even though it is clear 
that both religions worship the God of Abraham.

Study your bibles and follow the scriptures on Isaac and Ishmael 
to gain your own understandings.  

I have a lot more studying to do ... but, one thing will always 
remain ... my faith and belief in Jesus Christ.




From: me
To: YO MAMA!
Date: Thu Oct 4 22:35:41 2001

Message:
(_!_) <-------- Thats my butt, so kiss it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: A Proud Canadian
To: all
Subject: Bin Ladin
Date: Thu Oct 4 22:59:55 2001

Message:
As many have said - possibly Bin Ladin should stand trial with 
12 of his peers to stand as a jury.
However which courtroom would allow a dozen camels to sit in 
judgment.
Beside that, how can we be sure some of the camels were not his 
offspring.

From: Spread the Truth
To: Everyone who'll open their eyes
Subject: The Koran (Qu'ran)
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:24:37 2001

Message:
Words from the Qu'ran a "peaceful" religion?

[an-Nisa' 4:56] Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, 
We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are 
consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they 
may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.

From: " PROUD AMERICAN"
To:
Subject: OIL, BOOST THE ECONOMY BY HAVING WAR
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:21:03 2001

Message:
THIS WAR IS NOT JUST ABOUT TERRIOSIM ITS ABOUT OIL AND BOOMING 
THE ECONOMY! DID YOU GUYS READ THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION I GAVE 
IN AN EARLIER ENTrY ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD.  

From: Speak the Truth
To: Everyone who'll open their eyes
Subject: The Koran (Qu'ran)
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:32:00 2001

Message:
Words from the Qu'ran a "peaceful" religion?

[an-Nisa' 4:91] Ye will find others who desire that they 
should have security from you, and security from their own 
folk. So often as they are returned to hostility they are 
plunged therein. If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you 
peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them 
wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you 
clear warrant.

From: Speak the Truth
To: Everyone who desires the truth
Subject: The Koran (Qu'ran)
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:33:55 2001

Message:
Words from the Qu'ran.  Islam a "peaceful" religion?

[an-Nisa' 4:101] And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin 
for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who 
disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an 
open enemy to you.

Islam means "submission" - IT DOES NOT MEAN PEACE

From: Speak the Truth
To: Everyone who desires the truth
Subject: ISLAM HATES!
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:36:11 2001

Message:
[al-Ma'idah 5:14] And with those who say: "Lo! we are 
Christians," We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of 
that whereof they were admonished. Therefore We have 
stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of 
Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their 
handiwork.



Islam means "submission" - IT DOES NOT MEAN PEACE

From: SPEAK THE TRUTH
To: EVERYONE - READ THE KORAN!
Subject: THE KORAN (QU'RAN)
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:38:05 2001

Message:
[al-Ma'idah 5:33] The only reward of those who make war 
upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in 
the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have 
their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be 
expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the 
world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;

From: SPEAK THE TRUTH
To: EVERYONE - PLEASE READ THE KORAN
Subject: HATRED OF CHRISTIANS
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:39:07 2001

Message:
[al-Ma'idah 5:51] O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and 
the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. 
He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. 
Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

THE KORAN ADVOCATES KILLING CHRISTIANS AND 
JEWS.


From: SPEAK THE TRUTH
To: EVERYONE - READ THE KORAN
Subject: THE KORAN (QU'RAN)
Date: Thu Oct 4 23:40:25 2001

Message:
[al-Ma'idah 5:73] They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is 
the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If 
they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on 
those of them who disbelieve.

THE WORDS OF THE KORAN!  THIS IS NOT A RELIGION 
OF PEACE. 

MOHAMMED (SP?) WAS THE FIRST TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!

From: Ashraf
To: The Retard Above
Subject: Quran, the Book of Peace
Date: Fri Oct 5 14:57:04 2001

Message:
This is my email address: Ashraf@UAEDesertSafari.com

Give me yours, may be I can teach you a thing or two, that would 
change your mind.

As to the versus from the Quran above, different versus apply to 
different situations. You have conveniently picked out those 
versus relating to the action that the Muslims must take, when 
their homes and families are being killed. 

My question to you is: Would you stand there with your arms 
folded had this been done to your mother, father, sister and 
brother, or even Christians of no kinship to yourself? Well 
according to u, if u do anything about it, then u r terrorist.

So if Prophet Mohammed was the first terrorist, for defending 
his family and his religion, then by God, I am too.

Read more about the Prophet Mohammed, may peace be upon him, 
before you make yourself look as foolish as I would look, had I 
said anything to insult Jesus Christ, may peace be upon him too.
Yes, may be peace be upon them both, as so were the orders of 
our Prophet, that we entail this phrase, whenever Jesus, may 
peace be upon him, is mentioned, or any other Prophet.

Since you have such utter knowledge of the Quran, may be you can 
tell us the versus where Allah describes the intimate 
relationship between Muslim and Christian believers... but.. 
oops! that wouldnt serve your religious-hatred stirring aims 
now, would it..? If u dont think such versus exist, dont be too 
proud to ask, my long-tongued, short-sighted friend.

Ignorant people like you have long called many Prophets names, 
including Mohammed and Jesus, may peace be upon them both. The 
likes of you, dont surprise me.

Come to think of it, you are not any better then Bin Laden, had 
he done this, coz both of you would have unarguably used the 
name of religion, and interpreted it to the narrowest of its 
meanings, to suit your own low desires, and to cause havoc to 
the people of the world. 

So you see, you are not so cool after all 

Peace...

From: US Citizen
To: Satanic Cowards
Subject: Your Doomed
Date: Fri Oct 5 15:40:47 2001

Message:
Dear Satin's disciple Bin Ladin and your followers;
  You are being chased down like the common criminal you are. 
You will lose and lose big. As far as your idiot followers, well 
stupid people in the way suffer. Its just nature. The strong (us)
overcome the weak (you and your followers). 
  We are not really afraid of you. We are determined to stop you 
and stop you we will. You are the sickness and freedom is the 
cure.
Good-bye
P.S. In all walks of life there are two types of men; Pussies 
and Studs. Your a pussy!

From: jo mama
To: bin laden
Subject: justice
Date: Fri Oct 5 17:48:01 2001

Message:
Let's sweep the towel faced sand niggers off this earth, and 
let's get this show on the road!

From: the E.S.D.
To:
Subject: Aziz speaks out
Date: Fri Oct 5 19:44:08 2001

Message:
10-4-01

Iraq Praises Usama bin Laden,Taliban,Saddam for 
'Terrorizing' the World 


Iraq praised Usama bin Laden,Taliban and even their own 
leader,Sadam Hussein, on Wednesday for using Saddam's 
huge supply of terrorist money against the west and the 
poor Muslims throughout the Middle East as a way of 
``terrorizing'' the world.

Deputy Prime Minister Tareq Aziz said the fortunes of 
Saddam make possible the actions against the U.S.along 
with assistance of Taliban rulers,  and Usama bin Laden. 

``Iraq's terrorism is a war against humanity, not against a 
single country but all of civilization (It) aims at terrorizing the 
whole world,'' Aziz told reporters.

``Our country and the Talibn do not need such a great 
amount of military arsenal to cause great harm to the west 
and throughout the world. The main objective of these 
terrorist attacks on the U.S. is to impose Saddam's terrorist 
imperialism on the world.''

The U.S. military is mobilizing heavily in the Gulf and Indian 
Ocean regions in apparent preparation for an assault on 
Afghanistan, whose Taliban rulers have sheltered bin 
Laden -- Washington's prime suspect for the September 11 
attacks on the United States in which some 6,000 people 
were killed or are missing.

U.S. officials have not ruled out raids on other countries they 
accuse of harboring ``terrorists.'' Iraq is one of seven 
nations Washington regards as ``state sponsors of 
terrorism.''

``If the United States is planning for a new aggression 
(against Iraq) we will confront such aggression as we had 
done in the past war,'' Aziz said.

On Monday, the Jordanian news agency Petra quoted 
Jordan's King Abdullah as saying U.S. President George 
Bush had pledged not to undertake military strikes on any 
Arab state, including Iraq, in revenge for the attacks.

The report was quickly denied by U.S. officials.

``We have asked for any pledge from anybody. The 
aggression of Iraq has been continuing for the last 10 
years,'' Aziz said in reference to raids on U.S. targets with 
western commercial planes, and we plan to continue such 
attacks. 

The Iraqi government had not officially taken credit for the 
September 11 suicide plane attacks on the United States, 
but Aziz sent letters of congradulations to bin Laden and 
Taliban rulers opposed to U.S. and her allies.

Baghdad has confimed press reports linking one of the 
suicide hijackers to its intelligence apparatus and said it 
had a solid relationship with bin Laden and with the Taliban. 
U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney has said investigations 
have found Iraqi link to the attacks.

Aziz condemned Iraq's foe Kuwait for accusing two Iraqi 
nationals of spying. Kuwaiti state television last week 
showed two men it described as Iraqi agents who had 
spied on military and civilian targets in Kuwait.

``The Kuwaiti rulers are telling the truth but they are trying to 
find an excuse for the United States to launch new 
aggression on Iraq,'' he said.

Washington led a multinational force in 1991 that forced Iraq 
to withdraw its invasion forces from Kuwait. The border 
between the two countries is monitored by a U.N. 
peacekeeping force
Source:BAGHDAD (Reuters) 




From: theE.S.D.
To:
Subject: State Sponsorship
Date: Fri Oct 5 21:52:34 2001

Message:
10/05/2001 : "Iraq Says U.S. Attacks Carried Out by Iraqi 
Sponsored Terrorism" 

Iraq says U.S. Attacks carried out by state sponsored 
terrorism with
aid from Taliban rulers and Osama bin Laden. 


Last month's suicide attacks in New York and Washington 
were carried out by Osama bin Laden and his militant 
Muslims, Iraq's Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan said 
in remarks published last Wednesday.

``We are assisting the Taliban and bin Laden...and the 
executors of the attacks were state sponsored,'' Ramadan 
told the al-Raee newspaper.

``The operation was carried out from inside Afghanistan and 
cells based throughout the west,'' he said.

On Saturday, President Bush repeatedly named Saudi-born 
militant Osama bin Laden, based in Afghanistan under the 
protection of the ruling Taliban movement, as a prime 
suspect behind the attacks which may have killed over 
6,000 people.

Ramadan also admitted to Iraqi officials financing and 
suppling the Taliban
with arms.

``The whole world knows that we are aggressive throughout 
the 
Musilim World,'' he said, adding that the W.T.C. attacks were 
a retaliation against ``military acts practiced by the American 
administration.''

Saddam Hussein on Saturday advised the United States to 
use non violence, and not force, in retaliation.

Ramadan described the deadly attacks as the fruit of 
Saddam's policies toward the United States and the civilized 
world. ``America has to review its internal and external 
policies,'' he added.

Iraq, which faced a U.S.-led alliance in the 1991 Gulf War 
following Baghdad's invasion of Kuwait, has used its media 
to hail the attacks
source:BAGHDAD (Reuters) 




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